2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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Childlike Empress said:
Follow-up by Caitlin: Former MSNBC Reporter Spills Details On Pro-Establishment Bias In Media





I agree with her completely that the utterly corrupt state of media is the biggest problem of our democracies today and I don't think Trump is far off when he calls them the enemy of the people.
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Yes we should do like Russia and abolish all large independent media outlets and turn them into pure government propaganda outlets. That would no doubt improve things. Every day would be Greatest Leader day.
 
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Late to the party, but regarding farm states going blue, the state with the largest agricultural production is California. Probably not what was meant by "farm state", but still.
I wonder if ANY state still has agriculture as its number one industry? Off to Google.

Back on topic, my governor's campaign seems to be going nowhere. Just as well.

ETA: According to this site, ag isn't even in the top four in any state.
 
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Trebuchet said:
Late to the party, but regarding farm states going blue, the state with the largest agricultural production is California. Probably not what was meant by "farm state", but still.
I wonder if ANY state still has agriculture as its number one industry? Off to Google.

Back on topic, my governor's campaign seems to be going nowhere. Just as well.

ETA: According to this site, ag isn't even in the top four in any state.
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I hate to mention it (see above), but Russia, who outlawed GMO, is now number one agricultural supplier to China, which on top of it has blocked all imports of agricultural products from the US a couple of days ago in return to some Trump megalomaniac sanctions.
 
Hey, did anyone see that Sanders had his top campaign people doxxing ordinary citizens again? Nothing hugely alarming about that!
 
Juan Williams on Fox this morning said a woman can't beat Trump. Guess he missed the day after inauguration protest.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Re Sanders' doxxing:

Daily Kos: Bernie Sanders's Media Supporters Defend Doxxing

There's a lot of Twitter discussion on it.
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Trumpian “lots of people are saying”.

That link doesn’t look like the claim that Sanders, personally, arranged for his top campaign people to dox anyone.

I’d prefer to see something more substantial than vague assertions about what people on Twitter are talking about (any moron can say anything on Twitter, and any moron can say anything on Daily Kos as well for that matter).
 
A twitter user was outed(?) as a shill by other twitter users, but they did not expose anyone's identity(?) causing yet more twitter users to grow outraged and now conspiracy accusations are flying both (all?) directions. Also, something about Noam Chomsky (because why not?).

That's the best I can summarize it so far. I don't know if I'm particularly interested in trying to gain any further understanding of the issue.
 
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angrysoba said:
Trumpian “lots of people are saying”.

That link doesn’t look like the claim that Sanders, personally, arranged for his top campaign people to dox anyone.

I’d prefer to see something more substantial than vague assertions about what people on Twitter are talking about (any moron can say anything on Twitter, and any moron can say anything on Daily Kos as well for that matter).
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Well look it up yourself if you want to defend Sanders. I just posted what I easily found with a quick search.

I didn't bother linking to the half dozen Twitter feeds I scanned through because the comments were all over the place.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Well look it up yourself if you want to defend Sanders. I just posted what I easily found with a quick search.

I didn't bother linking to the half dozen Twitter feeds I scanned through because the comments were all over the place.
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What if just, y'know, accurate information not in the form of a bunch of hysterics and innuendo is the goal?

Googling for "Bernie Sanders doxxing" with the time set to within the last week, I run into the link for this very thread we are participating in right now before finding a single link that looks remotely credible (lots of twitter and reddit, the dailykos article, and headlines that trumpet a prejudicial conclusion in the form of a question).
 
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What if just, y'know, accurate information not in the form of a bunch of hysterics and innuendo is the goal?
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What if, you know, people didn't pick on me because I posted what I found with a quick search?

I didn't make the claim, Travis did. As for hysterics, angrysoba accused me of supporting Travis' claim, poorly. I didn't support Travis' claim. I just looked for a source he might be using.

Delphic Oracle said:
Googling for "Bernie Sanders doxxing" with the time set to within the last week, I run into the link for this very thread we are participating in right now before finding a single link that looks remotely credible (lots of twitter and reddit, the dailykos article, and headlines that trumpet a prejudicial conclusion in the form of a question).
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Goody for you. Post whatever you think is credible, let's all attack you for sharing your search results. :rolleyes:

I didn't post the reddit or Twitter links either. I thought the DailyKos at least put context to Travis' claim. People are outing donors.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Well look it up yourself if you want to defend Sanders. I just posted what I easily found with a quick search.

I didn't bother linking to the half dozen Twitter feeds I scanned through because the comments were all over the place.
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I’m not interested in defending Sanders so much as getting the person accusing him of ordering a doxxing to substantiate the claim. It looked like you were attempting to do so on Travis’s behalf but having fallen short you are now backing away.
 
A private citizen, with the handle The Hoarse Whisperer, tweeted about how Sanders is the biggest reason we have Trump as president (true) and MSNBC host Brian Williams read it on the air as an example of backlash Sanders is receiving.



Briahna Joy Gray and David Sirota (who, by the way, continues to push the BS idea that the DNC rigs the primaries) then appealed to their followers to doxx The Hoarse Whisperer so they could ruin his life in retribution for not being part of their cult.
 
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