The Trials of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito: Part 29

[Mr Fied]

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[Mr Fied]

This boulder?

 

[Welshman]

I bet you are the type of person who, if given a parking ticket, blames the traffic warden.


I was just parking here in this space after driving around the block several times. I had no choice but to nip in. Sure, there's a sign that says, 'No Parking' but hey everybody else is doing it. Bloody bastard.


Not much different from:

'Hey I was just acting out my written fantasies of giving a chick a razor to her left jaw. So we have this stupid guy who isn't impressed by my wiggling my hips at him - always worked with the drug dealers and the Italian creep with the Audi - doesn't he know I'm an American brat and I'll do whatever I like. So **** off, Mignini. Frickin' bastard.'

This response doesn't address the point I was making.

 

[Stacyhs]

This response doesn't address the point I was making.

 

[Numbers]

This boulder?
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A boulder, according to

www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/boulder

is "a large rounded rock" and more specifically

in British usage, is:

1. a smooth rounded mass of rock that has a diameter greater than 25cm and that has been shaped by erosion and transported by ice or water from its original position

2. geology
a rock fragment with a diameter greater than 256 mm and thus bigger than a cobble

in American usage, is:

1. any large rock worn smooth and round by weather and water
2. Geology
such a rock larger than a cobblestone with a diameter of at least 256 mm (c. 10 in).

So is that rock a boulder?

It certainly is a rock that can be held in the hand of an adult male, since only one dimension is long. Rocks that are boulders, according to generally accepted definitions, are rounded (approximately spherical or ellipsoidal), and by a conventional geological definition, have a diameter of at least 256 mm (256 mm is a bit more than 10 inches).

 

[Stacyhs]

In common usage, a boulder is any rock too large for a person to move alone.

Vixen's disingenuous hyperbole was an attempt to portray it as being too large for anyone to have thrown from the parking area through Filomena's window.

 

[TruthCalls]

In common usage, a boulder is any rock too large for a person to move alone.

Vixen's disingenuous hyperbole was an attempt to portray it as being too large for anyone to have thrown from the parking area through Filomena's window.

How about the massive three meter climb to get to the window. Surely even more challenging than heaving that boulder through the window.

 

[Stacyhs]

How about the massive three meter climb to get to the window. Surely even more challenging than heaving that boulder through the window.

I know...so very difficult that a climber demonstrating it said it was easy. But you know, he didn't really climb to the windowsill and sit on it! The video was craftily edited!

 

[Mr Fied]

I know...so very difficult that a climber demonstrating it said it was easy. But you know, he didn't really climb to the windowsill and sit on it! The video was craftily edited!

Ah, but he was a professional climber who could shimmy up Everest before breakfast just for fun.

 

[LondonJohn]

Ah, but he was a professional climber who could shimmy up Everest before breakfast just for fun.

And he totally didn't make easy (and obvious) use of the iron grate covering the window almost directly below that of Romanelli - the grate which Vixen proved to us wasn't there by posting photos showing it right there

 

[Stacyhs]

This is an interesting article on rape being a crime of opportunity for some burglars:

Burglary and robbery commonly accompany rape. Among our sample, 39 percent of rapists had also been convicted of one or the other of these crimes committed in connection with rape. In some cases, the original intent was rape and robbery was an after-thought. However, a number of the men indicated that the reverse was true in their situation. That is, the decision to rape was made subsequent to their original intent which was burglary or robbery. This was the case with a young offender who stated that he originally intended only to rob the store in which the victim happened to be working. He explained that when he found the victim alone, 1 decided to rape her to prove I had guts. She was just there. It could have been anybody. Similarly, another offender indicated that he initially broke into his victim's home to burglarize it. When he discovered the victim asleep, he decided to seize the opportunity "to satisfy an urge to go to bed with a white woman, to see if it was different." Indeed, a number of men indicated that the decision to rape had been made after they realized they were in control of the situation. This was also true of an unemployed offender who confided that his practice was to steal whenever he needed money. On the day of the rape, he drove to a local supermarket and paced the parking lot, "staking out the situation." His pregnant victim was the first person to come along alone and "she was an easy target." Threatening her with a knife, he reported the victim as saying she would do anything if he didn't harm her. At that point, he decided to force her to drive to a deserted area where he raped her. He explained: 1 wasn't thinking about sex. But when she said she would do anything not to get hurt, probably because she was pregnant, I thought, 'why not.' The attitude of these men toward rape was similar to their attitude toward burglary and robbery. Quite simply, if the situation is right, "why not." From the perspective of these rapists, rape was just another part of the crime —an added bonus.

SOCIAL PROBLEMS, Vol. 32, No. 3, February 1985 "RIDING THE BULL AT GILLEY'S": CONVICTED RAPISTS DESCRIBE THE REWARDS OF RAPE* DIANA SCULLY JOSEPH MAROLLA Virginia Commonwealth University

 

[Planigale]

This is an interesting article on rape being a crime of opportunity for some burglars:


SOCIAL PROBLEMS, Vol. 32, No. 3, February 1985 "RIDING THE BULL AT GILLEY'S": CONVICTED RAPISTS DESCRIBE THE REWARDS OF RAPE* DIANA SCULLY JOSEPH MAROLLA Virginia Commonwealth University

I keep on reading this as by Dana Scully and expect it to explain about how 30% of aliens would anally probe a human experimental subject if left alone with them!

There is a paper from the US I think I previously quoted here recording that in 30% of cases where a burglar found a single woman present in the home sexual assault would occur. Whilst the risk of being a single woman at home when a burglary occurs is unlikely once that situation occurs sexual assault is not unlikely. However progression to murder is uncommon occurring in < 5% of cases of sexual assault.

 

[Stacyhs]

I keep on reading this as by Dana Scully and expect it to explain about how 30% of aliens would anally probe a human experimental subject if left alone with them!

There is a paper from the US I think I previously quoted here recording that in 30% of cases where a burglar found a single woman present in the home sexual assault would occur. Whilst the risk of being a single woman at home when a burglary occurs is unlikely once that situation occurs sexual assault is not unlikely. However progression to murder is uncommon occurring in < 5% of cases of sexual assault.

I agree that rape escalating to murder is not that common, but if the woman screams as Meredith did, a first time rapist might be more prone to panic than an experienced rapist and kill her to quiet her.

In 2017, 135,000 rapes were reported in the US. When we consider that only 4 in 10 rapes are reported, that >5% of rapes that escalate to murder isn't that rare.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...rcent-Increase-in-Rape-Reports-495065881.html

 

[TruthCalls]

I agree that rape escalating to murder is not that common, but if the woman screams as Meredith did, a first time rapist might be more prone to panic than an experienced rapist and kill her to quiet her.

In 2017, 135,000 rapes were reported in the US. When we consider that only 4 in 10 rapes are reported, that <5% of rapes that escalate to murder isn't that rare.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...rcent-Increase-in-Rape-Reports-495065881.html

FIFY.

I find these statistics all rather vague and subject to speculation. Did they break in knowing the woman was there or broke in not knowing and was surprised? Was the motive murder or was it a sexual assault or burglary and escalates to murder? I'm sure it's not a common occurrence, but it certainly does happen.

 

[TruthCalls]

Flip-flops were banned from 'hilly hiking trails' because of the cost of having to rescue ditzy tourists stupid enough to go on a hill-hike wearing them. Get it right.

Vixen, would you mind pointing out where in Stacy's post she said anything about the flip-flop ban?

 

[Stacyhs]

You brought our attention to an article mocking Italy's supposedly ridiculous 'rules' designed to frustrate the foreign tourist who wants to lounge about in a bikini on a Catholic site or canoodle at the altar or whatever.

Once again, your reading comprehension is abysmal. I did not post the article. Rose Montague did.

And it only gets worse.
This is the only mention of bikinis in the article. Nowhere does it mention them in connection with ‘sacred sites’.

Meanwhile, a Canadian tourist was slapped with a €250 ($279) fee for sunbathing in a bikini in Venice's Papadopoli Gardens.

Since when are the Papadopoli Gardens a “sacred site”?

The only other mention of bathing suits (not specifically ‘bikinis’) is this:

15. Wearing a swimsuit. The fashion police are out in full force in Venice, too. Wearing a swimsuit while sightseeing is prohibited.

Again, what sacred sites are mentioned?

Since when is a moving car an 'altar'?

17. Kissing in a car. In Eboli, a town south of Naples, passionate couples risk big fines. Kissing in a moving car is strictly against the law.

Maybe I missed the new models. Our Lady of the Sacred Toyota? Santa Maria della Ford? The Church of the Holy Volkswagen? Santa Chrysler?

I just pointed out that some of the hilarious rules have come about because of the consequences of the behaviour of some of these tourists who appear to show no respect for what Italians hold dear.

You pointed out ONE reason for ONE of the laws...which was already explained in the article which is where you got it from in the first place!

1. Wearing flip-flops. The hilly seaside destination of Cinque Terre has had it with flip-flop-clad tourists who need to be rescued from local hiking trails.

(article)

Flip-flops were banned from 'hilly hiking trails' because of the cost of having to rescue ditzy tourists stupid enough to go on a hill-hike wearing them. Get it right.

(You)

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Stacyhs]

Blame the victims much? These rules are pretty funny unless you have to pay one of those steep fines. Sounds like a way to scam some unsuspecting folks trying to enjoy a vacation. My guess is that once word gets around, they will just pick a different destination.

Some of these rules make sense. For example, feeding the pigeons in St. Marks' Square in Venice leads to hundreds of these birds crapping all over everything and everyone. Not wearing flip flops is understandable but kind of silly. Not everyone climbs all over the hills or rocks and needs rescuing. Those that do and contribute to having to be rescued should be fined, not those just walking around town on a hot day. I can't understand not being able to walk and eat a gelato cone in Florence. I bet the gelato vendors aren't too happy about that.

(Let's see how Vixen spins what I've said into something negative or that I didn't actually say.)

 

[Myriad]

What's the penalty for doing a cartwheel in a police station?

 

[Stacyhs]

What's the penalty for doing a cartwheel in a police station?

Twenty-six years.

 

[SpitfireIX]

What's the penalty for doing a cartwheel in a police station?

Four years in prison.