2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

[Skeptic Ginger]

Its a shame that Bidens' years seem to be catching up with him faster than he can get to the general election.
I don't see any of the other front runners as being likely to unseat Trump.

Nonsense. There are some very strong candidates in the mix. Biden is one of the weakest. The only reason he is ahead is everyone else is splitting the rest of the vote.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Nonsense. There are some very strong candidates in the mix.

Stronger than Hillary? And I mean 2016 Hillary not now Hillary.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Geez. Is there any doubt that this guy understands the issues and can do the job?

I think it's highly unlikely he gets most of his ideas through congress, but even at 137 years old, he's a breath of fresh air.

Sanders has all the right ideas except the idea that he can sell them with a youth movement and a movement of waking up a large mass of apathetic citizens.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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But look at it this way:

We both agree that Williamson would make a better president than Donald Trump, yes?

So would an orangoutang. Your framing of that question is dishonest.

...And we both agree that it would annoy the Democratic establishment to no end if she were elected, yes?

No, I don't agree with that at all. Were the Democrats to elect Williamson as their candidate, it would mean they wanted her.

...Then why do you find it so hard to believe that I would prefer Williamson over any other Dem in the primaries, and prefer her over Trump in the general?

Trolling was one of the possibilities.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

A Roomba put on a Ouiji board would make a better President then Trump.

Wins the analogy contest!!!!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Yes, Ohio unemployment, has been dropping since 2010, like elsewhere, but it is undeniable that Trump's tariffs have cost jobs and brought farms to the verge of collapse, and now he has escalated. There is no doubt that overall the trade war is bad for the economy, and Trump is stuck with simply claiming that it isn't. People will decide based on their own circumstance, not labor statistics. The election is more than a year away, and Trump is betting (your) farm on winning his trade war.

People need to be reminded, farmers are not counted in the unemployment rolls.

 

[theprestige]

And yet we have Trump.

Trump happened in spite of GOP lies, not because of them.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Stronger than Hillary? And I mean 2016 Hillary not now Hillary.

I'm not sure why you are comparing completely different circumstances.

Hillary was a great candidate and would have won had she seen the social media attack and addressed it.

 

[theprestige]

You would make a better president then Trump. So would I.

Put your hat in the ring, and if you end up sounding any saner than Marianne Williamson (or Donald Trump for that matter), I'll consider switching my vote.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Hillary was a great candidate and would have won had she seen the social media attack and addressed it.

"Would have won had not X happned" is still losing.

And you think 2016 was hard? Think about it, Trump knows if he loses the Presidency or if the Senate goes Blue in 2020 he's looking at a probable prison sentence.

This is going to be the dirtiest campaign in history.

Everything they threw against Hillary in 2016 they are gonna sling times 10 at whoever the Dems decide to put up.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump happened in spite of GOP lies, not because of them.

That's on the surface. Look under the hood.

I suggest you start with Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President - What We Don't, Can't, and Do Know

Jamieson's university page

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

"Would have one only if" is still losing.

And you think 2016 was hard? Think about it, Trump knows if loses the Presidency or if the Senate goes Blue in 2020 he's looking at a probable prison sentence.

This is going to be the dirtiest campaign in history.

Everything they threw against Hillary in 2016 they are gonna sling times 10 at whoever the Dems decide to put up.

Of course they are. And if the Democrats don't learn from their mistakes in the 2016 election, we run a huge risk of losing again.

 

[Venom]

You would make a better president then Trump. So would I.

I'd vote for any regular in this subforum over Trump.

 

[applecorped]

lol, Travis for President!

 

[TragicMonkey]

lol, Travis for President!

Build The Train!

 

[kellyb]

Also wrong.

Also, the stupidity of this forum does not disappoint.

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But look at it this way:

We both agree that Williamson would make a better president than Donald Trump, yes?

And we both agree that it would annoy the Democratic establishment to no end if she were elected, yes?

Then why do you find it so hard to believe that I would prefer Williamson over any other Dem in the primaries, and prefer her over Trump in the general?

Are you going to register as a democrat and vote for her in the primaries?

 

[theprestige]

I'd vote for any regular in this subforum over Trump.

It should be noted that unlike Marianne Williamson, none of the regulars on this forum have earned the campaign donations or the polling numbers necessary to even be relevant to the question.

 

[Distracted1]

Well, in Ohio, the last poll I saw had Biden beating Trump by 8 points.

I file Ohio Under "rust belt", not "farm state".

How does the rest of the field match up there, though. Does any other Democrat come out better than "within margin of error"?

 

[Distracted1]

Nonsense. There are some very strong candidates in the mix. Biden is one of the weakest. The only reason he is ahead is everyone else is splitting the rest of the vote.

Which of the candidates that are "splitting the vote" does as well as Biden against Trump?

 

[gerdbonk]

It should be noted that unlike Marianne Williamson, none of the regulars on this forum have earned the campaign donations or the polling numbers necessary to even be relevant to the question.