Today's Mass Shooting

[Arcade22]

Eh, his getup (cargo pants - possibly of the "tactical" variety, like 5.11s, and a black tshirt) is pretty typical of modern "tactical" style. Or maybe casual tactical might be more accurate. Just watch any gun video on youtube, and chances are, you'll see a person dressed like that. True, he isn't wearing anything like body armor or other military-style equipment, but how many of the modern mass shooters have? I'm kind of asking seriously here, I really don't know - as far as I know, they're mostly disaffected young men, who I assume basically dressed like that during their attacks. Either way, I don't think his choice of clothing really matters much.

The gun is totally an AK varient from that picture, though. Kind of strange to see that in attacks two weeks in a row when ARs were so common beforehand. I'm not sure if there's any significance.

Let's face it: balaclavas, webbing gear and such might look menacing but what's the point of dressing up like that if you are just going sweaty and tired?

A tshirt and shorts is probably more than appropriate apparel if you are going to play paint-ball or go on a killing spree in Texas.

 

[alfaniner]

Unusual that there are so many shooters or suspects.

The news backtracked to say it's likely there was only the one. I really hate that in the scramble to get the scoop, news organizations will repeat any old thing anyone says without verifying it first.

Even if an assault weapon was used, it was not in full auto (or even semi-auto) mode, because there is a video with the sound pop-pop-pop. It doesn't really matter because a lot of people are still killed the slower way.

 

[Checkmite]

The news backtracked to say it's likely there was only the one. I really hate that in the scramble to get the scoop, news organizations will repeat any old thing anyone says without verifying it first.

In fairness the source of the "three arrested" was the mayor of El Paso, who is an authority and the kind of person that it's generally safe for news agencies to quote statements from.

 

[Lennart Hyland]

Apparently the shooter wrote a manifest where he blames his attack on the "hispanic invasion of Texas".

NBC is reporting of at least 19 dead and 40 injured... really tragic.

 

[shemp]

Unfortunately, the "good guy with a gun" was shopping at Target at the time.

 

[Checkmite]

Apparently the shooter wrote a manifest where he blames his attack on the "hispanic invasion of Texas".

This is not known to be true yet. As recently as a press brief that just concluded moments ago as of this post, the El Paso police have not named the shooter or given any identifying details about him, other than that he is a 20-something white male.

 

[TJM]

Witness on faux at the moment gave a description of the shooter matching the twitter pic upthread.

 

[Checkmite]

Witness on faux at the moment gave a description of the shooter matching the twitter pic upthread.

"His face was kind of fuzzy and out-of-focus..."

 

[332nd]

NBC reporting that the police have identified him as Patrick Crusius.

 

[Checkmite]

A formal press conference including city and state officials is beginning momentarily.

 

[Checkmite]

Press conference just now: 20 fatalities, 26 wounded.

Nexus to a hate crime, but police aren't ready to declare it that yet.

Still no official name. Suspect in custody is a 21-year-old white male from Allen, Texas.

 

[Trebuchet]

Tweet with the picture has apparently been taken down.

 

[Checkmite]

The press conference has concluded. The alleged "manifesto" was mentioned, but it was stated by the police chief that an actual connection between this manifesto and the shooter has not yet been established.

 

[Cain]

How many of these horrendous shootings have to occur for Americans to finally wake up and realize they should be armed at all times?!

 

[Venom]

How many of these horrendous shootings have to occur for Americans to finally wake up and realize they should be armed at all times?!

It happened in Texas.

But not the right part of Texas, where the expert gunslingers would stop the shooting before it happens and force the assailant to empty the clip into his own mouth.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

My money is one someone not liking brown people.

So far, this is indeed the case.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

There's an image of the shooter here.

https://twitter.com/AlixRo89/status/1157739559247106053?s=20

Good for Twitter, they took the pic down.

 

[Cain]

It happened in Texas.

But not the right part of Texas, where the expert gunslingers would stop the shooting before it happens and force the assailant to empty the clip into his own mouth.

Hopefully it will discourage illegal immigration.

 

[Venom]

I don't mean to beat a dead horse but I don't like the term "mass shooter".

I like the word Wikipedia uses, rampage killer better, because it's a bit more specific in what kind of murder we're talking about, what most people imagine when they think mass shooting, but broader at the same time, including knife attacks and other weapons like bombs or suicide by pilot.

Gang shootouts could be classified as mass shootings under the current classification often referenced in the news.

 

[Checkmite]

CNN in its coverage has been quoting an El Paso police spokesman as announcing that immigration authorities would not be present either at the hospitals or at the family reunification site in the wake of the massacre; evidently the police have concerns that some victims of the shooting, perhaps with serious injuries, have not sought medical treatment out of fear of being arrested and deported by ICE agents waiting at hospitals, and/or haven't attempted to reunite with family at the designated site.