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a_unique_person said:
And that's what happens in a hard brexit? Since there will be no deal on anything, then there will be a border between the EU and the UK at the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. The EU countries presumably have borders between themselves and everyone else that is non EU?
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Yes they do, but those have border checks and all that. Which the good friday agreement said won't be there.
But that's ok. Brexit magic will create a border that stops smuggling while at the same time being fully open.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Yes they do, but those have border checks and all that. Which the good friday agreement said won't be there.
But that's ok. Brexit magic will create a border that stops smuggling while at the same time being fully open.
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Boris says no backstop ever. Has he mentioned at all how his proposal fits in with Good Friday?
 
So what happens when this next deadline passes and there's still no deal?

What's the "end state" for all this?
 
JoeMorgue said:
So what happens when this next deadline passes and there's still no deal?

What's the "end state" for all this?
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If the next deadline passes without a deal and without anything else being agreed then the UK leaves the EU with no withdrawal agreement and all UK/EU agreements cease to be.

Chaos ensues.
 
The Don said:
People I know who have met him are convinced that Boris is just a character he plays and he's very intelligent.



Which isn't to say that he's not shortsighted, impulsive, selfish and a load of other negative characteristics - just not stupid.
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Yeah, he's not a Trump in terms of intelligence.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
No, it really isn't.

It's most like a country in Europe. Which is what it is.
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With its own foreign policy military and so on, because it is a real country beholden to no one!

If Scotland was its own country England couldn't force it to leave the EU.
 
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Archie Gemmill Goal said:
If the next deadline passes without a deal and without anything else being agreed then the UK leaves the EU with no withdrawal agreement and all UK/EU agreements cease to be.

Chaos ensues.
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As do almost all UK/Other country agreements because at the moment they are EU/Other country agreements. A small number of countries have agreed to grant the UK the same deal as the EU (which makes a mockery of the notion of getting better deals) but the vast majority seem to be waiting in the expectation that they will be able to negotiate a far more favourable (to them) deal than the one they currently have with the EU.
 
ponderingturtle said:
With its own foreign policy military and so on, because it is a real country beholden to no one!

If Scotland was its own country England couldn't force it to leave the EU.
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A military doesn't make a country.

If Scotland was independent then England couldn't force it to leave the EU. But it isn't. However for now the people of Scotland have elected for the country of Scotland to remain within the Union of the United Kingdom.
 
You can't define country. There's no possible single definition of country that would include Vatican City (the least like country that is still a country) but exclude Hong Kong (the most country like country that isn't a country.)

What defines a country is whether or not other countries consider you a country.
 
Nessie said:
There has been talk of technology creating some sort of magical hard border, that looks like no border, but is a border.
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Which has been shown to be delusional.

Nessie said:
What really should happen for there to be a hard border is customs posts/border checks on both sides.
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They'll last about three days in Norn Iron I'd estimate.
 
The Don said:
Dominic Raab is claiming that he made it clear during the referendum campaign that a no-deal Brexit was a distinct possibility.

Guess what ?

He's lying :mad:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49165836
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In fact almost all of them were saying how easy it would be to make a deal and how they could easily have their ske and ear it too.

Edit: basically, there were no losses for leaving the EU and only gains to be made.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
You can't define country. There's no possible single definition of country that would include Vatican City (the least like country that is still a country) but exclude Hong Kong (the most country like country that isn't a country.)

What defines a country is whether or not other countries consider you a country.
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So who recognizes Scotlands independence and treats it like a real country? Where are the ambassadors to Scotland?
 
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