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Ziggurat said:
The body of work that was being appealed to was theprestige's body of work, in order to claim that he was being dishonest and therefore uncivil. Is it your claim that theprestige is racist, based on his body of work?
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I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Either we got mixed up in our communication or something. I've been talking, especially in that post where it's ******* clear, that I'm addressing Trump.

Just so we can shut this down and move beyond it. No, he's not racist. Drop it, I'm talking about Trump. There should be no confusion moving forward. Thanks.
 
https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm

Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.
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plague311 said:
The ******* are home dood. Why are you missing that on purpose? There is no other 'home' for them to go back to. They are citizens of the United ******* States of ******* America.
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I've been reliably informed that citizenship should not be a prerequisite for calling the USA your home.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Completely agree that Trump is unqualified and unsuited by temperament to be President regardless of his polices.

And Trump is not really right-wing, since he makes policies according to what he thinks will get him personal profit or re-elected.
His stance on Immigration is pure populism he obviously doesn't believe in, given the number or illegal migrant workers he employs.
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I think is own white supremacist beliefs play a lot into it as well.
 
plague311 said:
No, he's not making that same attack and you're being disingenuous at best.
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no u.

If you can find one other case of Trump telling someone who disagrees with him, ideologically, and he told them to "go back and fix" their country. Then by all means present your evidence here that this is standard operating procedure. You've failed to do that at all. You just keep bleating out the same line.
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I'm sure if Hillary had another country to go back to, Trump would have made hay of it. And you probably would have insisted it was sexism.

As it is, I don't think Trump ever suggested Hillary Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi, or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, for that matter, should go back to the kitchen. Nor does he attack Harris on the basis of her race.

Omar's case presents some unique circumstances that admit a unique retort. But her race isn't the unique part. So it's silly to assume that her race is the driving force behind the unique retort. Especially from someone who doesn't actually have a pattern of attacking people who disagree with him on the basis of their race or gender.

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The closest he's come is attacking Warren about her claims of Native American heritage. But this is an attack on the cynical bogosity of the claim, not the alleged heritage itself.

And, to your point, he only ever attacked Warren that way because Warren was the only opponent who happened to give that particular opening. Not because of her race or gender.
 
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Ziggurat said:
The body of work that was being appealed to was theprestige's body of work, in order to claim that he was being dishonest and therefore uncivil. Is it your claim that theprestige is racist, based on his body of work?
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Oh. Huh. I totally thought we were talking about Trump's body of work, there. My bad.
 
plague311 said:
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Either we got mixed up in our communication or something.
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That is exactly my point: you got mixed up. I'm trying to sort you out before you get even more mixed up. Here, I'll walk you through how this came up.

1) Joe claims theprestige is being uncivil.
2) I respond that theprestige was not being uncivil.
3) Joe implies theprestige was uncivil because he was arguing dishonestly by mischaracterizing Joe's position.
4) I respond saying that being wrong isn't the same as being dishonest
5) You respond to me and say that we should look at the body of work. Up until now, everything has been explicitly about theprestige's posts. Your post implies a broader context, but it's still theprestige's posting which brought this up.
6) theprestige responds to you. His post doesn't reference any specific instance, but it's still part of a thread connecting back to his own posting.
7) You respond to theprestige, and specifically mention Trump's behavior for the first time in this subthread.
8) I then respond to you, pointing out that this was about theprestige and not Trump.

Just so we can shut this down and move beyond it. No, he's not racist. Drop it, I'm talking about Trump. There should be no confusion moving forward. Thanks.
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But nobody else was. We were talking about theprestige. You introduced Trump when it wasn't about Trump.
 
plague311 said:
The ******* are home dood. Why are you missing that on purpose? There is no other 'home' for them to go back to. They are citizens of the United ******* States of ******* America.
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That context is not the only context in which the retort is used. Please consider the possibility that it can be used in other contexts, without the racist baggage it has in that one context.
 
Ziggurat said:
Follow the trail I laid out for plague311. You both got your wires crossed.
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Yeah, everyone else was confused, not you.

Again, since we're all moving on. You won this argument. You can have exactly have of theprestige's previously awarded internet points. Literally no one but you cared, as has been shown.
 
I just have to laugh at the pathetic attempts of the Trump lovers here to prove his Tweets were not "racists".
 
plague311 said:
Care to expand on that? Trump's body of work strongly indicates he's a racist. The only explanation for you saying this that I can come up with is you don't think the things he says are racist (the Mexican comment, taking forever to disavow Duke, his comments about the judge, this situation, etc.). Which is totally and completely up to you. I certainly don't care, but don't expect others to put the blinders on too.
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Hey, denial of obvious facts is all the Trumpies have left.
The country can go to hell as long as they get their tax breaks.
 
theprestige said:
That context is not the only context in which the retort is used. Please consider the possibility that it can be used in other contexts, without the racist baggage it has in that one context.
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I can consider anything, but given Trump's past and his body of work, it all goes to a central point.

Again, Mexican rapists, his country ban, his immigration policy, etc. I get it though, it's like that liar liar movie.

"I object!"

"On what grounds?!"

"It's extremely damaging to my case!"
 
plague311 said:
I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Either we got mixed up in our communication or something. I've been talking, especially in that post where it's ******* clear, that I'm addressing Trump.



Just so we can shut this down and move beyond it. No, he's not racist. Drop it, I'm talking about Trump. There should be no confusion moving forward. Thanks.
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I applaud your civility.

As for me I'll say it plainly: prestige and zigg are being racists. Not protecting a racist, not engaging in disingenuous feigned confusion.

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The intellectual dishonesty of the Trump Defenders in this thread is incredible.
But Dear Leader must be defended at all costs.
 
dudalb said:
I just have to laugh at the pathetic attempts of the Trump lovers here to prove his Tweets were not "racists".
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They were racist, sure.

Here's the problem, though. "Racist" is a deflated currency. It's the cultural equivalent of the Venezuelan bolivar. You printed too much of it, and now it's worthless.
 
theprestige said:
*Implicit in that is that Somalia is a ******** country, but somehow nobody worries about racism in that context.
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I think that was clear form the context of what Trump was saying when he talked about ******** countries. But, I'm open to correction if you think he was talking about Ireland or Wales.
 
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