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The Trump Presidency 15

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Aridas said:
Man... The US is amazing! We apparently had airports and airplanes around the beginning of our country... long, long before the Wright brothers were alive. According to Trump history.

In other news... ICE Detention Center: We're not responsible for staff sexually abusing migrants. Well, I learned something new. Despite all the reasons not to report the people who have direct power over you to their friends, about half of the claims of sexual assault/rape in ICE custody are towards the government employees, rather than fellow detainees. In short, this is probably a rather dramatic undercount. Also, we've got people seriously arguing that detainees who have literally committed no illegal actions can be legally treated worse than convicted criminals, because detention centers aren't officially jails, so the rules that apply to jails don't apply to them.
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The USA is a horror show in so many ways these days but the treatment of the detained migrants is the worst thing going on there right now. It is a major failure of morals for the entire country. There is no moral or political will in the country to rectify the horrible abuses. The only difference between the current US concentration camps and the German concentration camps of the 1940’s is that the US is not (yet) actively killing their prisoners. For all those since 1945 who have asked “how could the German people let this happen?” your answer is to look at the USA in 2019. There are no differences. The answer is APATHY.
 
Steve said:
The USA is a horror show in so many ways these days but the treatment of the detained migrants is the worst thing going on there right now. It is a major failure of morals for the entire country. There is no moral or political will in the country to rectify the horrible abuses. The only difference between the current US concentration camps and the German concentration camps of the 1940’s is that the US is not (yet) actively killing their prisoners. For all those since 1945 who have asked “how could the German people let this happen?” your answer is to look at the USA in 2019. There are no differences. The answer is APATHY.
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I have to admit - you are not alone nor the worst offender. Australia's "offshore processing" regime is the winner there, even though there are far fewer detainees. Don't be like us with that. It's appalling.
 
Steve said:
The USA is a horror show in so many ways these days but the treatment of the detained migrants is the worst thing going on there right now. It is a major failure of morals for the entire country. There is no moral or political will in the country to rectify the horrible abuses. The only difference between the current US concentration camps and the German concentration camps of the 1940’s is that the US is not (yet) actively killing their prisoners. For all those since 1945 who have asked “how could the German people let this happen?” your answer is to look at the USA in 2019. There are no differences. The answer is APATHY.
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Partial disagreement here. There is moral and political will. It's just that Trump and the Republicans have been either effectively deluding and/or brainwashing their base on the one side and doing something of a real life Gish Gallop of horrors that all need addressed on the other, which seriously impedes the effective use of the distinctly limited power that the Democrats currently have. So, at best, that final statement would be Apathy - of a distinct minority that the part in power depends upon.
 
Steve said:
But they had SHERMAN written on them, right?
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Steve said:
The USA is a horror show in so many ways these days but the treatment of the detained migrants is the worst thing going on there right now. It is a major failure of morals for the entire country. There is no moral or political will in the country to rectify the horrible abuses. The only difference between the current US concentration camps and the German concentration camps of the 1940’s is that the US is not (yet) actively killing their prisoners. For all those since 1945 who have asked “how could the German people let this happen?” your answer is to look at the USA in 2019. There are no differences. The answer is APATHY.
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Bravo! Extremely well said.

My sig used to read: "The greatest problem facing mankind is apathy. But nobody cares."
 
This part of the speech was particularly inspiring.

"In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified Army out of the Revolutionary Forces encamped around Boston and New York, and named after the great George Washington, commander in chief. The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown.

"Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket’s red glare it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their star-spangled banner waved defiant."
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"Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket’s red glare it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their star-spangled banner waved defiant."
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OMG...manned the air with WHAT? Airports?!
Fort McHenry? As in the War of 1812?

Trump is a MORON!!! And part of the problem is that his base won't even recognize this.
 
Ladewig said:
Displaying tanks, precision flying teams, and parachute teams increases military enrollments.
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As in those idiotic commercials that make the military look like a video game? It might appeal to 17-18 year olds who can't distinguish between reality and Call of Duty.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
The only history Trump knows is from the Star Spangled Banner. :sdl:
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You give him too much credit. I'd bet Trump had no idea what Francis Scott Key was referring to when he wrote his poem or the circumstances surrounding it. Sadly, I'd also bet most Americans don't.
 
rdaneel said:
This part of the speech was particularly inspiring.
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Stacyhs said:
OMG...manned the air with WHAT? Airports?!
Fort McHenry? As in the War of 1812?

Trump is a MORON!!! And part of the problem is that his base won't even recognize this.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
The only history Trump knows is from the Star Spangled Banner. :sdl:
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And we've seen him move his lips during the National Anthem, so what he gleaned is based on remembering the high and low notes from boxing nights in Trump Bankrupt Casino and Sports Pilaver.....


I have no doubt that he's completely unaware that the ramparts being sung about were the ramparts of Fort McHenry and any battering (not ramming, ya putz!) was being done by the Brits.

Someone could make a great speech out of explication of the first verse (the only one anyone knows), but Donnie ad-libbing about air power and ramming ramparts ain't that someone. Sort of reminds me of Paul Revere riding to warn the colonies that the British were coming to take our guns. Alt-Right Alt-History.
 
Dershowitz: Author Michael Wolff fictionalized my dinner with Trump

In his new bestselling book, “Siege: Trump Under Fire,” author Michael Wolff makes up a story about me from whole cloth. He wrote, “Dershowitz was invited to dinner at the White House to discuss representing the president. He was just the kind of lawyer the president thought he needed: an aggressive advocate who could argue his case on television. Over dinner, Dershowitz asked for a retainer of a million dollars. Trump, ever believing that part of the legal game was not paying your lawyers, told Dershowitz he would get back to him. But the conversation was over. Never in a million years would he pay a lawyer a million bucks up front!”

There is no truth whatsoever to this story. I never had a conversation with President Trump or anyone else about a possible retainer to represent him. No figure of $1 million or anything else was ever discussed. The story is entirely fictional. I have published dozens of nonfiction books and, in every case, my editors have demanded that I get a confirmation or denial from anyone I am writing about. Yet, neither Wolff nor his publisher ever called me to ask me whether the story was true. If they had, I would have told them that it was false. At least then they could have printed my denial next to the false account. Instead, however, they simply went ahead and published their defamatory falsehood without even publishing my denial.

This is not journalism. It is fiction writing, and bad fiction at that. I doubt that Wolff even has a credible source for that story because there were only a handful of people at my dinner with the president, at which we primarily discussed the Middle East peace plan under the administration. None of them would make up such a story. If the source is someone not at the dinner, then Wolff should have said that he was relying on hearsay.
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Although I can't confirm either one independently, Dershowitz's denial seems a lot more believable to me. If they had asked him for comment, they could at least prove that much.
 
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