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The Trump Presidency 14

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TragicMonkey said:
A common misspelling of a homophone is less indicative of poor intelligence than misapplication of capitalization, I feel. One is a simple error of word choice, the other indicates a lack of awareness of a fundamental rule of written English and suggests aliteracy because only unfamiliarity with written English could explain the persistence of the mistake.
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Well, it *is* the Strait of Hormuz. No "gh" in there.
 
The Atheist said:
Now what would be really funny is if this thread's still going in 2025 as Ivanka starts her second term as President, succeeding daddy, of course.
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That'd only be her first term. Donny's second will be January '21 to January '25. And if he's reelected next year I'd be surprised if the R's don't nominate her in '24.
 
I think the big money donors now see where the wind is blowing in terms of profits from fossil fuel industries. Coal is still dying despite Donnies claims and they can see what's happening to Arctic oil. They can also see renewables reducing dependence on old sources and with distributed generation loosening the hold of the old companies.

Trump is old news. He can cry and whimper. But the backers and (I hope) the voters are on to him. He was their last throw of the dice.
 
Cabbage said:
Guess what: If "Not Trump" is not satisfying enough to get you off your ass to vote for a merely "competent" president, you just might wind up with four more years of a president that's borderline [full blown] fascist.
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If Trump is reelected and we don't impeach him, he will be emboldened to go completely fascist/authoritarian on us.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
If Trump is reelected and we don't impeach him, he will be emboldened to go completely fascist/authoritarian on us.
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And Amendment 25 would come into play. He would be demonstrating that he is incapable of performing the office. Despite the fact he has already capable demonstrated such is the situation now. Frankly, it's probably only heavy drugs and makeup holding him upright these days.
 
Segnosaur said:
I guess after 2 years of Stubby McBonespurs and The Turtle stumbling around Washington and getting very little accomplished (They did get a tax cut passed...
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I suspect some donors who are classical conservatives are revolted by the growing deficit and debt numbers. And so, will be loathe to contribute money to anyone so nonchalant about such core principles.
 
Trebuchet said:
That'd only be her first term. Donny's second will be January '21 to January '25. And if he's reelected next year I'd be surprised if the R's don't nominate her in '24.
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Correct - should've been 2029. Complete maths fail.

I wasn't joking, either - I see it as a strong likelihood.
 
Stacyhs said:
That HRC was a "mediocre candidate" is your opinion, and not one with which I agree. Not at all.

Your definition of 'competent' seems to be different than mine, too.



I would love to have a president who meets the above definition. What more do you want in a president than to be efficient, capable, and successful as POTUS?
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I want a President that actually has some sort of belief system and actually takes some sort of ownership and lead on an important set of issues. I think Hilary took it for granted that "Not Trump" would get her through the election.

jeremyp said:
Competent is good. A competent leader is one who steers the country through a period of boring prosperity. Great leaders only tend to appear in times of great crisis like civil wars, economic depressions or existential threats from enemies. Few people in Britain could name the prime minister in power when slavery was abolished here. However, a lot of us know that Abraham Lincoln was the President during the American Civil War. If you were an ordinary person of military age, or your son was, would you prefer our abolition process or yours? You had a great president at that time. We had competent or possibly incompetent prime ministers.

ETA I’m not saying Lincoln caused the Civil War only that the emergence of a great leader was a sign of very bad times.
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In the presence of actual progressives that take vocal stands on socially important issues that could move our society forward and actually have spines, a Hilary Clinton or a Joe Biden just isn't good enough. Trump Vs. Clinton, i'd take Clinton any day. A clinton or Biden vs. Bernie or even an Elisabeth Warren (who is a good in-betweener on the progressive vs. corporatist spectrum), both Bernie and Warren are infinitely better.
 
Ayatollah Khomeini? Why is a guy who's been dead 30 years trending?

Oh, I should have guessed.
 
For those not up to date, Trump announced sanctions on the Ayatollah Khomeini, who has been dead since 1989.
 
Norman Alexander said:
And Amendment 25 would come into play. He would be demonstrating that he is incapable of performing the office. Despite the fact he has already capable demonstrated such is the situation now. Frankly, it's probably only heavy drugs and makeup holding him upright these days.
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He's mentally ill now, he's corrupt and so are his family members and probably a slew of other members of his administration, the Mueller report documented clear obstruction law breaking...

And you think someone is going to put the brakes on this man "the next time"?

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Juniversal said:
I want a President that actually has some sort of belief system and actually takes some sort of ownership and lead on an important set of issues. I think Hilary took it for granted that "Not Trump" would get her through the election.
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I think Hillary more than met all those 'wants' you list. That you don't is, again, your opinion. However, your statement was
I'm tired of "competent". The fact we're settling for merely "competent" is ridiculous...
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I'd be thrilled with 'competent'.
 
I can see accidentally writing "Khomeini" vs. "Khamenei" as with "Regan" and "Reagan." To me that in itself is not a fatal flaw. But with Trump, I'm never sure if it's just a typo ... he's quite capable of believing they are the same person. Which wouldn't be so bad, except it's very easy to check, and double-checking would be among the traits I would value in a commander in chief.
 
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I went shopping for a new quartz countertop today. A lot of quartz is imported from China. The saleslady told me that I was lucky that the quartz I'd chosen was in stock from an old shipment because the new stock cost 4X as much due to Trump's China tariffs. She said the tariffs were hitting the company hard because the new prices were so ridiculous that no one was buying. Keep that money that China is paying us in tariffs rolling in, Donnie! It's not hurting US businesses or consumers at all.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
ftfy

If Trump is reelected and we don't impeach him, he will be emboldened to go completely fascist/authoritarian on us.
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Yes, it certainly was terrible when Nixon/Ford/Carter/Reagan/Bush I/Clinton/Bush II/Obama/Trump cancelled the elections. :rolleyes:

My favorite "cancelling the elections" conspiracy was that Obama was directing [Only] Black Lives Matter(who he secretly controlled, obviously) to kill a bunch of police officers across the country in the weeks before the election so he could cancel the elections until order was restored.
 
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