Stochastic Terrorism and Edgelord Humour

[d4m10n]

Some woman offers a feminist critique of various video games? Um, okay, again, who cares?

Target Australia cares.

We lock them up, force them to undergo deprogramming, and then release them when their sentence is up. If the commit another similar crime, we lock them up again.

Wait, what was their first crime?

 

[luchog]

Not just the US being affected by this growing right-wing terrorist threat. Germany has been dealing with a number of neo-Nazi attacks that fall at least partly into the stochastic model; and there has now been a successful political assassination by neo-Nazis.

IT LOOKS LIKE GERMANY’S WORST FEAR JUST HAPPENED: A FAR-RIGHT POLITICAL ASSASSINATION

Excerpt:

For years, experts have warned that Germany’s increasingly radicalized far right would one day lash out with deadly violence against a politician. Now it appears this nightmare scenario has finally happened, underlining the arrival of a dangerous new political reality for the country.

German authorities announced Monday that the country’s federal prosecutor had taken over the investigation into the June 2 murder of Walter Lübcke, a prominent pro-refugee local politician, who investigators suspect was killed in a politically motivated assassination by a right-wing extremist. A 45-year-old man, arrested on Saturday on suspicion of having shot Lübcke, has a long track record of right-wing extremist associations, and a history of violent and xenophobic crimes, German media outlets reported.

 

[Juniversal]

Dallas Federal Building Shooter Posted Far-Right Memes About Nazis and Confederacy - https://www.thedailybeast.com/dalla...-far-right-memes-about-nazis-and-confederacy/

Of course there's already a thread on this but think it's worth adding to this thread to help create a historic log for these right wing attacks.

 

[d4m10n]

...it's worth adding to this thread to help create a historic log for these right wing attacks.

Why just those?

 

[jimbob]

Why just those?

I the contxt of a denial of right wing terrorism it makes sense.

 

[CaptainHowdy]

Neo-Nazism is a call to violence, it's inherently violent.

You have yet to show that this is true. Nobody has been able to explain how Nazism is uniquely violent despite being asked numerous times by different people. This is important to remember because any argument that assumes that nazism is inherently violent is an argument based on a false premise. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true.

 

[Puppycow]

You have yet to show that this is true. Nobody has been able to explain how Nazism is uniquely violent despite being asked numerous times by different people. This is important to remember because any argument that assumes that nazism is inherently violent is an argument based on a false premise. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true.

Oh for pity's sake. The Holocaust. Remember that?

 

[Juniversal]

Why just those?

Because this thread is specifically referencing the far right brand of white supremacist terrorism. The rhetoric and propaganda that 4-chan/8-chan serves up that seems to help radicalize these men is racist, far right, ethnostate BS.. Not only that but I think it's important to acknowledge the presence and danger of this style of terrorism because I think it can easily be shrugged off and overlooked because it's not foreign brown people doing it.

 

[Darat]

Target Australia cares.







Wait, what was their first crime?

Inciting the killing of lots of their fellow citizens.

 

[uke2se]

Not really. There are plenty of people who are Islamists who we do not lock up.

We do monitor them tho. And we are locking up people who return after joining ISIS.

And we don't do it because despite their bigoted views, they haven't acted in such a way that crosses the line to encouragement of violence. Similarly, unless the person who follows a fascist ideology has begun to actively call for murder or other crimes, I don't believe they should be locked up and "deprogrammed".

Well, that's good then, because actively calling for murder and other crimes is most of fascist ideology, especially Nazism.

 

[wareyin]

Why just those?

Are there currently a lot of left wing attacks you are worried about? I may have missed them, as it seems like only right wing extremists have been committing these attacks in America lately.

 

[d4m10n]

Are there currently a lot of left wing attacks you are worried about? I may have missed them, as it seems like only right wing extremists have been committing these attacks in America lately.

https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/875026187831005184?s=19

 

[wareyin]

https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/875026187831005184?s=19

Did you miss the "lately"? Your one guy from 2 years ago was egged on how? As a "both sides" false equivalence attempt, this was pretty pathetic.

 

[d4m10n]

Did you miss the "lately"? Your one guy from 2 years ago was egged on how? As a "both sides" false equivalence attempt, this was pretty pathetic.

What makes you believe this shooter was immune from the process of radicalization described in the DailyKos piece 8 years ago?

 

[wareyin]

What makes you believe this shooter was immune from the process of radicalization described in the DailyKos piece 8 years ago?

He's your example. You need to do the leg work to show he fits. As it stands, to repeat, your attempt at a both sides false equivalence was pathetic.

 

[d4m10n]

He's your example. You need to do the leg work to show he fits. As it stands, to repeat, your attempt at a both sides false equivalence was pathetic.

I think the Vice News article did the legwork pretty well.

 

[wareyin]

I think the Vice News article did the legwork pretty well.

You wanna quote the parts that show how he was radicalized, and by who/what organizations?

If you are able to prove this case (which doesn't appear likely so far), you will have one on the left from 2 years ago, to thousands on the right in the past year alone. You have a lot of work to do if you want to make others worry about what you want them to worry about.

 

[d4m10n]

You wanna quote the parts that show how he was radicalized, and by who/what organizations?

How is that necessary to the defintion?

"The use of mass public communication, usually against a particular individual or group, which incites or inspires acts of terrorism which are statistically probable but happen seemingly at random."

We know he committed an act of terrorism, we can see he was soaked in memes which are common from mass communications. It isn't difficult to infer inspiration, given his circumstances and his targets.

 

[wareyin]

How is that necessary to the defintion?

"The use of mass public communication, usually against a particular individual or group, which incites or inspires acts of terrorism which are statistically probable but happen seemingly at random."

We know he committed an act of terrorism, we can see he was soaked in memes which are common from mass communications. It isn't difficult to infer inspiration, given his circumstances and his targets.

It may not be difficult for *you* to infer, but as this is your example you need to give others a reason they should accept it. So far all we have is your say so. I am not coming from your bias, so I am not making the same assumptions you are. Show your work.

And if you are able to, you will only need thousands more recent examples to show the equivalency you wish to show.

 

[d4m10n]

And if you are able to, you will only need thousands more recent examples to show the equivalency you wish to show.

What on Earth are you talking about?

I have reason to doubt whether the process described by the OP applies exclusively to people motivated by right-wing ideology, since there is nothing in the defintion which restricts it to right-wing ideology and nothing in human nature which prevents left-wing ideology from causing radicalization, especially when we're talking about the sort of people who are prone to take their us-vs-them talk to the streets.

If you choose to believe the Congress shooter wasn't motivated by his stated beliefs re: the 1%, that's fine. I'm not going to do a deep dive on it for you.