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I think worrying about the cars veering off is the main draw. Once that's off the table, your enthusiasm for Trump will evaporate. A month after he leaves office, you'll be struggling to remember why you ever bothered to follow his tweets at all.

You mean we'll forget he was ever president?

I doubt that.
 
How about this:

You actually cite, with real references, the exact quote you're referring to...

... And then I'll tell you straight up about how few ***** I give about whatever rando twitter babbling or off the cuff brain fart you thought was so important to call me out on.

You better prove he said that!... (Why?)...because I don't care!!!.

LMFAO!!!
 
I've spent a couple hundred hours working on tariff stuff at the plant I 'intern' at, and these tariffs could well be the axe that broke the camel's back, ironically sending more jobs off to our daughter plant in Mexico and our parent plant in Sweden.

We simply can't afford to pay another $1-1.5 million on aluminum and stay in business, even if we solve all our other problems.

And the full impact of the tariff war with China has not even begun to set in

It has it my pocketbook a little though: I play board based wargames a lot, most of those are printed in China, and China just slapped 25% tariff on printed material.
 
Trump has, once again, described himself as an "extremely stable genius" today.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1131660203085180928
Uh huh, sure. You just keep telling yourself that, Donnie.

I watched a clip from his Rose Garden press conference.
"Well, it turns out I’m the most — and I think most of you would agree to this — I’m the most transparent President, probably in the history of this country..I don’t do cover-ups. You people know that probably better than anybody.". White House release of transcript

Who is he talking to? The White House press pool? Telling them they'd agree he's the most transparent president ever? (Actually they probably would agree to that, but with a very different meaning.) That the White House press corps knows "better than anybody" that Trump "doesn't do" cover ups? Seriously?

It reveals what a terrible person this guy is. Anything he doesn't have an answer for he dismisses as "Fake News" "failing New York Times" "The media is the enemy of the people." etc. It's just a crappy tactic. A while back I saw a segment about the New York Times' White House press crew. It was on the day Trump had a joint press appearance with a Chinese official. The Times' crew arrived late and Trump took them aside. "Where were you guys. I wanted you to be here, to see this." He was very friendly and collegial. I guess the White House media people know that all the attacks on the media are just for his supporters, people he obviously has very little respect for. The rubes. The media people remain professional and take it all in stride.

What a total carnival!
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On Trump voters about to pay the price ..literally..for the stupidity of Donnie:

"Experience keeps an expensive school, but fools will learn in no other".
Benjamin Franklin.
 
The latest:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Thursday that she wishes President Donald Trump’s family or staff would stage an intervention, citing Trump’s abrupt move to end negotiations on infrastructure during a meeting the day before...The comment comes a day after Trump left a meeting with Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., at the White House. Trump told the Democrats that he will not deal with them on legislation while they pursue investigations into his businesses and personal finances. CNBC

Donnie reacted quickly:
“She’s a mess,” Trump told reporters at an afternoon news conference in which he lined up White House staff to testify to his calmness at a meeting with Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer. “Cryin’ Chuck, Crazy Nancy … I watched Nancy and she was all crazy yesterday,” he claimed. Time

It's not him, it's them!
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I mean you'll forget why you ever thought that his being president meant you had to follow his tweets.

Being president is actually quite good justification for bothering (this is the word you used) to follow his tweets. Your disagreement with this is yet another example of how you blindly dismiss both the incompetence of Trump and the importance of his position.
 
Do you all realize that Trump committed a felony yesterday on National Television? He bribed the Democrats to stop the investigation. That is both obstruction of justice and bribery of a public official.

Oh noes. Surely this is the end for Trump.

I mean it's not as if

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-admitted-federal-crime-obama-1086346

Trump has ever

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dona...tted-federal-crime_n_5b7da81de4b07295150f49f6

openly admitted to

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018...el-cohen-paul-manafort-collusion-payment.html

a felony before

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-hush-money-payments-likely-criminal-offense/

because that would obviously be the thing that finally takes Trump down.

As Bill Maher put over a year ago when this "Yep this is the thing that's finally gonna take Trump down!" thing was already a stale joke

"Stop telling me the noose is tightning. It's not. He's always that color!"
 
Oh noes. Surely this is the end for Trump.

I mean it's not as if

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-admitted-federal-crime-obama-1086346

Trump has ever

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dona...tted-federal-crime_n_5b7da81de4b07295150f49f6

openly admitted to

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018...el-cohen-paul-manafort-collusion-payment.html

a felony before

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-hush-money-payments-likely-criminal-offense/

because that would obviously be the thing that finally takes Trump down.

As Bill Maher put over a year ago when this "Yep this is the thing that's finally gonna take Trump down!" thing was already a stale joke

"Stop telling me the noose is tightning. It's not. He's always that color!"

All the above doesn't say much good about the state this government has fallen to, does it? It doesn't take much to imagine how the Repubs would have reacted to Obama pulling the above kind of crap. But then, Obama didn't because he wasn't a POS like Trump.
 
Oh noes. Surely this is the end for Trump.

I mean it's not as if

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-admitted-federal-crime-obama-1086346

Trump has ever

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dona...tted-federal-crime_n_5b7da81de4b07295150f49f6

openly admitted to

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018...el-cohen-paul-manafort-collusion-payment.html

a felony before

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-hush-money-payments-likely-criminal-offense/

because that would obviously be the thing that finally takes Trump down.

As Bill Maher put over a year ago when this "Yep this is the thing that's finally gonna take Trump down!" thing was already a stale joke

"Stop telling me the noose is tightning. It's not. He's always that color!"

I have never said "the noose is tightening". Not ONCE. I was just pointing out that Trump can hardly make it through the day without breaking some laws. I find it difficult to believe that the Republican Senate will ever develop principles. On principle, I strongly believe that Trump should be impeached.

But practicality tells me, it is a waste of time.
 
I have never said "the noose is tightening". Not ONCE. I was just pointing out that Trump can hardly make it through the day without breaking some laws. I find it difficult to believe that the Republican Senate will ever develop principles. On principle, I strongly believe that Trump should be impeached. But practicality tells me, it is a waste of time.

Agreed. I'd like nothing better than to see him thrown out of office, but I know it will never happen with the Senate being controlled by the GOP. So why waste the time and money?
 
Agreed. I'd like nothing better than to see him thrown out of office, but I know it will never happen with the Senate being controlled by the GOP. So why waste the time and money?

It's a no win scenario.

A Trump impeachment has zero chance, and I mean that on an almost mathematical level, of going to indictment or conviction. And if we impeach Trump and he's still President when 2020 runs around we've handed the reelection to him on a silver platter. It's suicidal on any political or practical level. If the Dems impeach Trump they should get the money instead of his reelection campaign because they are basically doing their job.

We don't impeach Trump and we might as well just take a red pen and cross the impeachment part out of the Constitution because if we can't use it for this why is it even there? It's just wasting space on the page. Might as well replace it with doodles of naked ladies. It's morally inexcusable that Trump is still President.
 
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It's a no win scenario.

A Trump impeachment has zero chance, and I mean that on an almost mathematical level, of going to indictment or conviction. And if we impeach Trump and he's still President when 2020 runs around we've handed the reelection to him on a silver platter. It's suicidal on any political or practical level. If the Dems impeach Trump they should get the money instead of his reelection campaign because they are basically doing their job.

We don't impeach Trump and we might as well just take a red pen and cross the impeachment part out of the Constitution because if we can't use it for this why is it even there? It's just wasting space on the page. Might as well replace it with doodles of naked ladies. It's morally inexcusable that Trump is still President.

I agree it's a no-win situation. Even if it were shown clearly that Trump was obstructing justice, the GOP senators are so far up his colon that they would find excuses to wave it away...just as they are doing now.
 
Okay and here's where I start to piss off the other side... at a certain point "Oh but the GOP is making it soooooo hard" starts to get a little hollow as well.

If we have someone who basically commits a crime, admits he does it, and dares you to do something about it on a daily basis and the people who's job it is to put that in check can't do it... what purpose they serve starts to become a valid question as well.

If I see a man rob a bank in broad day light, run outside the bank, hand the cop on the corner a signed confession, dare the cop the arrest him, and the cop stands there and does nothing... I want the guy arrested and I want the cop fired.
 
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It's a no win scenario.

A Trump impeachment has zero chance, and I mean that on an almost mathematical level, of going to indictment or conviction. And if we impeach Trump and he's still President when 2020 runs around we've handed the reelection to him on a silver platter. It's suicidal on any political or practical level. If the Dems impeach Trump they should get the money instead of his reelection campaign because they are basically doing their job.

We don't impeach Trump and we might as well just take a red pen and cross the impeachment part out of the Constitution because if we can't use it for this why is it even there? It's just wasting space on the page. Might as well replace it with doodles of naked ladies. It's morally inexcusable that Trump is still President.


While I get your point, I both agree and disagree with much of this post. It is wrong that Trump is still in office.

Still, things are progressing. The courts have been doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to be doing. This stonewalling tactic is springing leaks. The full unredacted Mueller report will be in several judge's and Congress's hands soon. The income taxes and Trump's financials will also find there way to both the courts and the various committees.

As for impeachment in the Constitution I have no doubt at all that Nixon was going to be impeached and removed from office if he hadn't resigned. No way as it stands right now will this Republican Senate impeach Trump. They won't want to cross Trump's crazy base.

Much hinges on the next 6 months. If things get ugly for Trump, the Republicans will want Trump impeached more than the Democrats. They will be looking for a way to salvage 2020. But that is a big "if".

Personally, I think the GOP is trying to goad the Democrats to try and impeach Trump now. No way in hell would I do it yet. Let it percolate. Kill him with a thousand cuts. Let the courts di their work. Let the public see those tax returns. Let McGahn and Mueller testify. But let it happen in September or even February.
 
So, after 1.5 to 2 pages of actual bad, non-benign, things Trump has done, do you honestly think it’s as simplistic as Orange Man Bad?

If so, that’s where TDS really lives.

Well, with that said... Orange man IS bad. All those specific things that have been pointed out pretty unavoidably lead to that conclusion. That some people seem to think that understanding that Trump is a very bad man, based on the preponderance of evidence, somehow makes for a defense is a bit mind-boggling. Or, it would be if it wasn't obvious that they're equivocating between the reaction to Trump and the reaction to, for example, Obama, and ignoring the massive differences in the situations.

If I see a man rob a bank in broad day light, run outside the bank, hand the cop on the corner a signed confession, dare the cop the arrest him, and the cop stands there and does nothing... I want the guy arrested and I want the cop fired.

Sure. How about we make that analogy better, though. Say there's multiple cops there, a majority of which are effectively holding the rest at gunpoint and trying to demand that the others do nothing. I want the guy arrested and all the dirty cops fired and potentially arrested, depending on the specifics of why they did what they did.
 
"Trump is soooooo incompetent!"
"Trump is da stoopid!"
"Trump is the least effective, dumbest President evaaaar!"
"Trump can't do anything LOLZ"

THEN WHY THE **** IS HE WINNING?

The Democrats are talking about how the person they just had the big bout with is the worst boxer that's ever existed and couldn't beat a fly on his best day... but they are the ones on the mat looking up at the ceiling.

Perhaps a visit to the collected quotes of H.L. Mencken would help?
 
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