The Trump Presidency 14

[newyorkguy]

The source (but not the poster) also shows Pelosi's Disapproval ratings average below 50% (unlike Trump's). Trump is the only president in the history of Gallup polling to never -- not even once -- have a disapproval rating under 50%. In fact, he may be the only major American political figure in history to never get a plus-50% approval rating.

Sad!

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Scares the hell out of me. I underestimated the stupidity of the American people. Never again.

I don’t think it’s stupidity.

Which is even scarier.

 

[phiwum]

But if the costs have gone up, it also means that the American producers have raised their prices as well.

I'm not sure. The 4% increase could be goods that Americans are not currently producing in sufficient quantities to meet demands.

Of course, some of that will come from manufacturing needs (parts, etc.) currently met by China and hence an increase in "American-made" goods.

But one would need to see actual numbers to know the effects. Not much point in trying to figure out what's really happening by using Trump's numbers. There's no more than a small handful of folks on this forum who take his word seriously, if that.

 

[surrogate]

Do you understand that the entire country does not vote for Pelosi? As a member of Congress, only those in her state can vote for her. Her state is California. California is solid Democratic, and Pelosi is a Dem. Funnily enough, but your chosen right-leaning source doesn't show anything about how she polls among only those who can elect her, it lumps in all sorts of Republican stronghold states who can't vote one way or the other.

Since she is in the House, only those in her district can vote for her, not the entire state. She represents the 12th district, which is just San Francisco.

 

[phiwum]

He's seen piles of dead bald eagles under windmills. He's also seen people jumping from the WTC and thousands of celebrating Muslims.

Images of piles of dead bald eagles under renewable energy sources. This is the subtlety and nuance we have come to expect from our esteemed and respected president.

 

[phiwum]

According to Wikipedia, domestic cats (most "unowned") kill 1.3 billion to 3.7 billion birds each year in the U.S.

Meanwhile, according to the Audubon Society, wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America.

According to The Guardian, at least 100 million and maybe as many as a billion birds die each year in the US when they collide with buildings, especially glass-covered or illuminated skyscrapers.

"Aldous J. Pennyfarthing" (can that be a real name?) blogged about Trump's claim, but does not include that kind of context. Rather than just mocking Trump, I think it would be useful to put things into perspective for readers. It may be possible to educate a few people here or there.

It's one of my many editorial pet peeves ...

I know debunking Trump is an arduous and perhaps thankless task, but share those figures if a Trump supporter makes a claim about piles of bald eagles under windmills.

To be fair, housecats probably kill very few birds of endangered species. It's totally plausible to me that windmills are more threatening to some endangered species. But I speak here only of plausibility, not knowledge.

If they're taking out seagulls, good for them.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

The Dems are getting another beauty to join their group. Bill de Blasio of NYC, considered the worst mayor in the U.S., will supposedly be making an announcement for president today. He is a JOKE, but if you like high taxes & crime, he’s your man. NYC HATES HIM!

 

[wareyin]

Since she is in the House, only those in her district can vote for her, not the entire state. She represents the 12th district, which is just San Francisco.

Indeed. San Fran is such a safe Democratic district that one really has to wonder why national polls would make someone think it unlikely that Pelosi would be re-elected.

 

[Armitage72]

Trump Tweets

The Dems are getting another beauty to join their group. Bill de Blasio of NYC, considered the worst mayor in the U.S., will supposedly be making an announcement for president today. He is a JOKE, but if you like high taxes & crime, he’s your man. NYC HATES HIM!

I'd really like a citation for him being the worst of almost 20,000 mayors in the US (quick Google search). I'm guessing his source was the same one as all of his other statements - his bloated posterior.
Trump's not really one to talk about people who NYC hates. More projection.

 

[lobosrul5]

Not necessarily. You forget (as does Trump) that the USA is not just throwing money at China. In return for its $500 billion, it gets goods.

Let's say, hypothetically, that all of the goods the USA gets from China are steel. In this scenario, the US manufacturers who were buying Chinese steel will have to source it from elsewhere at a higher cost. This means they are being squeezed from two directions: the loss of a $180 billion market and an increase in raw material costs. Chinese manufacturers, on the other hand, have an extra $180 billion demand thanks to the loss of American suppliers, plus they have access to an enormous steel glut which lowers their costs. It's still not good for either country, but America suffers worse.

I'm not saying that the above situation is what actually pertains, but it is somewhat simplistic to claim that China will be worse off just because the money flows towards them.

If it was the case that the US exports were all finished goods, and all the Chinese exports to the USA were raw materials, then that would hold true. Its not even close though. Actually, we only import a small fraction of our steel from China. (Trump tries to make it sound like its a huge number, actually its a very small amount, https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf )

Also, you don't get extra demand when a supplier stops buying from you. Not sure where you got that idea from. In reality they'd probably just ship their steel to Japan or maybe Singapore (not Taiwan lol), who would sell to us.

Another thing that will hurt us more than China is, there are far more US backed Chinese companies than the other away around.

 

[ponderingturtle]

He's seen piles of dead bald eagles under windmills. He's also seen people jumping from the WTC and thousands of celebrating Muslims.

Great now I am seeing a bladerunner type scene for Trump

 

[ponderingturtle]

I was relying on data from RCP, which has always been reliable as far as I've seen. 538 says 41/52, RCP says 44/52.

538 also had Donald Trump losing on the morning of election day, so I don't see them as all that authoritative on the subject. I also don't believe Silver's weighting of polls is ideal.

They gave him a 25% chance at winning, why does 1/4 odds suddenly seem like they must be totally broken?

 

[Tero]

Nixon wom an election with 45%. But he carried CA, those weredifferent times.

Predicting an election with the electoral college a major player in the outcome is nearly impossible. With Hillary 63 million votes and 60 million, the odds were about 50/50 for either to win.

 

[Segnosaur]

According to Wikipedia, domestic cats (most "unowned") kill 1.3 billion to 3.7 billion birds each year in the U.S.

Meanwhile, according to the Audubon Society, wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America.

To be fair, housecats probably kill very few birds of endangered species. It's totally plausible to me that windmills are more threatening to some endangered species. But I speak here only of plausibility, not knowledge.

From: https://abcbirds.org/wind-energy-threatens-birds/
...those species that are most susceptible to turbine collisions and/or displacement are raptors, night-migrating songbirds, and grassland birds.... Raptors — though they have excellent vision — have their eyes focused on the ground looking for prey and do not detect the approach turbine blades, and night-time migrants do not see the blades.

From: https://phys.org/news/2018-11-farm-predator-effect-ecosystems.html
In new research, an international team of scientists studied the effects of wind turbine use in the Western Ghats...They found that predatory raptor birds were four times rarer in areas of plateau where wind turbines were present

I'm not trying to absolve Trump, and I do recognize that global warming is a more significant problem than bird deaths by windmill... only that there may be reasons why simply looking at total bird deaths may not give a complete picture of what's happening.

 

[Trebuchet]

Nixon wom an election with 45%. But he carried CA, those weredifferent times.

But he was a RINO, and a long-time resident of that state.

 

[phiwum]

From: https://abcbirds.org/wind-energy-threatens-birds/
...those species that are most susceptible to turbine collisions and/or displacement are raptors, night-migrating songbirds, and grassland birds.... Raptors — though they have excellent vision — have their eyes focused on the ground looking for prey and do not detect the approach turbine blades, and night-time migrants do not see the blades.

From: https://phys.org/news/2018-11-farm-predator-effect-ecosystems.html
In new research, an international team of scientists studied the effects of wind turbine use in the Western Ghats...They found that predatory raptor birds were four times rarer in areas of plateau where wind turbines were present

I'm not trying to absolve Trump, and I do recognize that global warming is a more significant problem than bird deaths by windmill... only that there may be reasons why simply looking at total bird deaths may not give a complete picture of what's happening.

Thanks for the references.

 

[Tero]

Do you eat at Cracker Barrel?
You voted Trump.
Is country your favorite music?
You voted Trump.
Do you ownn pit bulls?
You voted Trump.
Do you grow stuff out the ground?
You voted Trump, unless it's a kitchen garden.
Do you own a pick up?
You voted Trump.
A shot gun?
Trump.
Do you go to a Baptist church?
You voted Trump.
Are you walthy?
You voted Trump unless you are Soros, Bezos, Al Gore or Bill Gates.
The more horses and guns you own, the more likely you voted Trump.

 

[Segnosaur]

Do you grow stuff out the ground?
You voted Trump, unless it's a kitchen garden.

Or pot.

 

[lobosrul5]

Do you eat at Cracker Barrel?
You voted Trump.
Is country your favorite music?
You voted Trump.
Do you ownn pit bulls?
You voted Trump.
Do you grow stuff out the ground?
You voted Trump, unless it's a kitchen garden.
Do you own a pick up?
You voted Trump.
A shot gun?
Trump.
Do you go to a Baptist church?
You voted Trump.
Are you walthy?
You voted Trump unless you are Soros, Bezos, Al Gore or Bill Gates.
The more horses and guns you own, the more likely you voted Trump.

Uhh, like 3 quarters of dogs here are pit bulls, or mixes. Yet Trump was roundly defeated in New Mexico.

 

[lobosrul5]

Nixon wom an election with 45%. But he carried CA, those weredifferent times.

Predicting an election with the electoral college a major player in the outcome is nearly impossible. With Hillary 63 million votes and 60 million, the odds were about 50/50 for either to win.

Yeah, but he also won the popular vote, a plurality of it anyways.