horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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LTC8K6 said:
It's hard to believe there was no communication here, though. Foxx knows that CPD expended an enormous effort in the case, as has the FBI and the postal inspectors.
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Appeal to incredulity noted.

And note also that she doesn't represent the CPD, the FBI, or the Postal Service. It would actually be improper for her to negotiate on their behalf, or prioritize their interests, in seeking a deal between Smollett and the state of Illinois. There shouldn't be much communication at all, between her office and those entities, unless they had something to contribute to her negotiation.

Which they didn't, because her negotiation with Smollett was a corrupt and secret thing anyway.

It's hard to believe Foxx dismissed all charges without a word to the investigating entities about making a deal with Smollett, but maybe she did.
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The prosecutor does not owe the investigator any explanation, for how they choose to handle their cases. The investigator does not have standing to demand any such explanation, for what happens to the case once the prosecutor takes over.

Besides, even if she did keep Chicago and the CPD in the loop, she still couldn't negotiate on their behalf, and they would still be entitled to seek their own remedy regardless of what deal Foxx's office made with Smollett.

You really are making a lot of bad assumptions here. The repeated appeals to incredulity aren't helping your argument, either.

Let's see what is revealed as things drag on and the finger pointing and back stabbing continues.
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I promise it won't be revealed that Chicago already got their deal from Foxx. Nor will it be revealed that Chicago is now trying to renege on that nonexistent deal.
 
theprestige said:
Appeal to incredulity noted.

And note also that she doesn't represent the CPD, the FBI, or the Postal Service. It would actually be improper for her to negotiate on their behalf, or prioritize their interests, in seeking a deal between Smollett and the state of Illinois. There shouldn't be much communication at all, between her office and those entities, unless they had something to contribute to her negotiation.

Which they didn't, because her negotiation with Smollett was a corrupt and secret thing anyway.


The prosecutor does not owe the investigator any explanation, for how they choose to handle their cases. The investigator does not have standing to demand any such explanation, for what happens to the case once the prosecutor takes over.

Besides, even if she did keep Chicago and the CPD in the loop, she still couldn't negotiate on their behalf, and they would still be entitled to seek their own remedy regardless of what deal Foxx's office made with Smollett.

You really are making a lot of bad assumptions here. The repeated appeals to incredulity aren't helping your argument, either.


I promise it won't be revealed that Chicago already got their deal from Foxx. Nor will it be revealed that Chicago is now trying to renege on that nonexistent deal.
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Way too serious there...

I bet $1 that something weird will be revealed about that deal that we don't know yet.

I bet another $1 that something weird is revealed about the $130K demand.

Chicago has been very crooked for a very long time.

As far as that letter...

It's very hard to believe that Smollett can fool the Feds for more than 10 minutes with a hate letter he sent to himself.

Yet it's been over 2 months and no charges.

Yet I'm 100% certain Smollett is the originator of the letter.

Feels very odd.
 
theprestige said:
I assume it's not double jeopardy because it's a civil suit, for damages.

"You owe us damages for the cost of your false report."

"I didn't make a false report!"

"Your Honor, may I present Exhibit A: Forfeiture of $10,000 bond, on the charge of making a false report."
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Bingo^^^
 
I hate to return to that hot sauce bottle, but how is it that CPD didn't find it right away?

To me, that seems very strange.

But then again, the whole case is strange.

Was it there and CPD just somehow didn't see it?

Was it planted later?
 
LTC8K6 said:
I hate to return to that hot sauce bottle, but how is it that CPD didn't find it right away?

To me, that seems very strange.

But then again, the whole case is strange.

Was it there and CPD just somehow didn't see it?

Was it planted later?
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Here's a 7 minute video from the reporter who found the bottle explaining how it went down. It shows the bottle, or the type of bottle, and she says the brothers/attackers told police that was the same type of bottle they used on Smollett.




According to her, snow had melted which could have revealed the bottle. Maybe someone planted the bottle later. If it was not there when police searched then I'd look at who stood to gain the most by it being found, and whoever would know what kind of bottle to plant. But with the warped logic of this entire plan and those involved...who knows.

Why didn't they buy MAGA hats instead of plain red hats? Couldn't find any locally? Would 2 real attackers bother wearing the red hats without the MAGA on them? I mean if you're a real "MAGA Country" dude you gotta have the real hat, no?

The way the investigation was handled I don't doubt the cops simply missed it. Surely the police returned to the scene to check the cameras at least, and maybe search for more evidence. As stupid as Jussie seems to be it's equally possible he had someone plant it. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
 
Yeah. Police normally wouldn't think to look for evidence in shallow snow at the actual scene. I mean, who would think of that?
 
mgidm86 said:
Here's a 7 minute video from the reporter who found the bottle explaining how it went down. It shows the bottle, or the type of bottle, and she says the brothers/attackers told police that was the same type of bottle they used on Smollett.




According to her, snow had melted which could have revealed the bottle. Maybe someone planted the bottle later. If it was not there when police searched then I'd look at who stood to gain the most by it being found, and whoever would know what kind of bottle to plant. But with the warped logic of this entire plan and those involved...who knows.

Why didn't they buy MAGA hats instead of plain red hats? Couldn't find any locally? Would 2 real attackers bother wearing the red hats without the MAGA on them? I mean if you're a real "MAGA Country" dude you gotta have the real hat, no?

The way the investigation was handled I don't doubt the cops simply missed it. Surely the police returned to the scene to check the cameras at least, and maybe search for more evidence. As stupid as Jussie seems to be it's equally possible he had someone plant it. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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I can't recall if any snow was visible in the pics we were shown of the brothers that night? Smollett took the cops right out there to the spot. It's not like it was a few days before the cops were shown the place.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I can't recall if any snow was visible in the pics we were shown of the brothers that night? Smollett took the cops right out there to the spot. It's not like it was a few days before the cops were shown the place.
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There was definitely snow in the persons of interest stills
 
LTC8K6 said:
Smollett has not admitted wrongdoing as far as I know.

Chicago has not proven wrongdoing as far as I know

Chicago has dropped all charges against Smollet.

Chicago even sealed the case records.

I can't see any way for Chicago to now try to collect anything from Smollett.

Chicago had it's chance.
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OJ/Goldman
 
In any case you have this line from Foxx:


“I was elected on a promise to rethink the justice system, to keep people out of prison who do not pose a danger to the community,” State’s Attorney Kim Foxx wrote in an opinion piece for the Chicago Tribune. “I promised to spend my office’s finite resources on the most serious crimes in order to create communities that are both safer and fairer.”
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...refuses-to-pay-investigation-costs/ar-BBVF6C1
 
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