Drewbot
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He is also responsible for the media continuing the Fine People Hoax, which Rahm Emannuel referenced in his statement.
horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett
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He is also responsible for the media continuing the Fine People Hoax, which Rahm Emannuel referenced in his statement.
sadhatter
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No he is not.
I hate the man but this trend of blaming him for everything is just us on the left not wanting to admit we ****** up, have been acting like ******** for a decade and now a lot of people hate us, but can't speak up, because of what we are doing to discourse, so they talk with their votes.
We created this environment, where being a victim is so valued powerful people want a bigger piece of the victim pie.
I've been saying this for a while, maybe eventually someone will listen.
theprestige
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Illinois Prosecutors Bar Association condemn's the Foxx's handling of the case:
The manner in which this case was dismissed was abnormal and unfamiliar to those who practice law in criminal courthouses across the State. Prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges alike do not recognize the arrangement Mr. Smollett received. Even more problematic, the State’s Attorney and her representatives have fundamentally misled the public on the law and circumstances surrounding the dismissal...
When an elected State’s Attorney recuses herself from a prosecution, Illinois law provides that the court shall appoint a special prosecutor. See 55 ILCS 5/3-9008(a-15).... Here, the State’s Attorney kept the case within her office and thus never actually recused herself as a matter of law.
Additionally, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office falsely informed the public that the uncontested sealing of the criminal court case was “mandatory” under Illinois law...
The appearance of impropriety here is compounded by the fact that this case was not on the regularly scheduled court call....
Lastly, the State’s Attorney has claimed this arrangement is “available to all defendants” and “not a new or unusual practice.”... Central to any diversion program, however, is that the defendant must accept responsibility....
http://www.ilpba.org/announcements/7249825
When an elected State’s Attorney recuses herself from a prosecution, Illinois law provides that the court shall appoint a special prosecutor. See 55 ILCS 5/3-9008(a-15).... Here, the State’s Attorney kept the case within her office and thus never actually recused herself as a matter of law.
Additionally, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office falsely informed the public that the uncontested sealing of the criminal court case was “mandatory” under Illinois law...
The appearance of impropriety here is compounded by the fact that this case was not on the regularly scheduled court call....
Lastly, the State’s Attorney has claimed this arrangement is “available to all defendants” and “not a new or unusual practice.”... Central to any diversion program, however, is that the defendant must accept responsibility....
http://www.ilpba.org/announcements/7249825
Drewbot
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I was joking, it's no one's fault that the media continue the Fine People Hoax.
Drewbot
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This won't be good.
Whoever ordered this dismissal is probably going to get in trouble. Especially if it referenced a payout, or a promise.
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Jussie has a friend, yeah
I know he's got a very high-powered friend ...
I know he's got a very high-powered friend ...
theprestige
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Brazilian jurisprudence has a concept of a "plea deal", but it's different from the US concept. For one thing, it's not a plea deal, it's a sentencing deal.
In the US, you make a deal with the prosecutor. You both pretend that you're guilty of a lesser crime. This saves the prosecutor the trouble of trying to nail you for the greater crime, and it saves you the risk of a heavier sentence for the greater crime.
In Brazil, you make a deal with the judge. You both agree that you're guilty of the crime you're actually indicted for. And you both agree that in exchange for your cooperation and your clear admission of guilt, you have earned a more lenient sentence.
This sentencing deal is useful in conspiracy cases, where one conspirator can get leniency in sentencing by admitting to his part in the conspiracy and giving the prosecutor actionable intelligence about his co-conspirators.
As a result of this, it's possible for five out of six conspirators to get lighter sentences by ratting out the sixth guy before he has a chance to do the same. But it's not possible for them to pretend they didn't commit the crimes.
To me, the Brazilian system seems to be both much more just, and also much more merciful, than the American system. But even the American system of plea bargaining is still much more just than the travesty on display in Illinois right now.
In the US, you make a deal with the prosecutor. You both pretend that you're guilty of a lesser crime. This saves the prosecutor the trouble of trying to nail you for the greater crime, and it saves you the risk of a heavier sentence for the greater crime.
In Brazil, you make a deal with the judge. You both agree that you're guilty of the crime you're actually indicted for. And you both agree that in exchange for your cooperation and your clear admission of guilt, you have earned a more lenient sentence.
This sentencing deal is useful in conspiracy cases, where one conspirator can get leniency in sentencing by admitting to his part in the conspiracy and giving the prosecutor actionable intelligence about his co-conspirators.
As a result of this, it's possible for five out of six conspirators to get lighter sentences by ratting out the sixth guy before he has a chance to do the same. But it's not possible for them to pretend they didn't commit the crimes.
To me, the Brazilian system seems to be both much more just, and also much more merciful, than the American system. But even the American system of plea bargaining is still much more just than the travesty on display in Illinois right now.
LTC8K6
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Foxx is getting panicky...
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I know corruption is common in Chicago, but did they really think they could make such a public case just disappear?
I would bet that they could have weathered the PR storm had they given Smollett a slap on the wrist, but releasing him with no admittance of guilt was just too far. Letting a hoaxster walk free, still proclaiming his hoax, with a sealed record was just too outrageous.
I would bet that they could have weathered the PR storm had they given Smollett a slap on the wrist, but releasing him with no admittance of guilt was just too far. Letting a hoaxster walk free, still proclaiming his hoax, with a sealed record was just too outrageous.
theprestige
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I think the State Attorney's mistake was letting herself get bullied into prioritizing Smollett's PR situation over her own office's PR situation.
In her scrabble to stop Smollett from emptying his magazine into his foot, Foxx fired an RPG right into her own face.
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Jussie Smollett is nominated for an NAACP Award, and host Anthony Anderson hopes he wins
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We all hope he wins. The acceptance speech will be priceless.
theprestige
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I hear the SPLC is in the market for a new director.
bytewizard
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He'll win if NAACP stands for National Association for the Advancement of Connected Perps.
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The Illinois Prosecutors Bar Association (IPBA) Statement on Jussie Smollett Case Dismissal paints a damning picture of the State's Attorney, and the Cook County State's Attorney's office.
But there is also a judge(s?) involved with this situation. IPBA's statement doesn't mention any judge or what role a judge played in this case.
I wish there was a similar-type statement, illustrating what a judge(s?) responsibilities are, and what the judge(s) did, or did not do.
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sadhatter
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I think the SCP foundation would be a better option.
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Worlds luckiest actor
Properties- near complete immunity to consequences of any action resultant of own stupidity or greed
Mild memetic effects: suspension of disbelief in obvious lies, this affects between %1-0.5 of the population.
Ability to make people prioritize his wellbeing over their own ( foundation note: this seems to be directly proportional to said persons level of influence)
*suspected* mild specific chronomantic ability. It has been theorized by foundation scientists that scp 11793 has reversed opinions and progress toward racial and homosexual equality by aproximately 20 to 30 years. This effect seems to be stronger in areas with higher knowledge of scp 11793.
(And exactly 2 people laugh. Sorry if you didn't get the joke, but I had to do something to lighten my mood about this)
theprestige
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I feel like the SCP thing is generally more interesting in principle than in actuality, but I did have a sensible chuckle over your use of it here. Thanks!
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