Anti-Muslim Terrorist Attack in... NZ?

Lambchops said:
I'm not shocked by this at all. This is what the young right-wing is.

And still, centrists think antifa is the problem.
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It's not centrists that think Antifa is an issue, it's rightwingers who think that by demonizing Antifa and tying them to the left that they can demonize the left by association.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I see. Well I guess it's been decades since I was there: 1978. ;)
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There have been a lot of changes since then, though we still do pretty much close down by 5:30pm (except Restaurants, Dairies, Service Stations, and other food outlets.)
 
PhantomWolf said:
I believe that by tradition they are meant to be buried by the next sun down if at all possible. So yeah...
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Been digging today and hope to get the bodies out by the end of the day according to Ardern. (The body bit. Heard about the digging this morning)
 
PhantomWolf said:
It has nothing to do with the time it takes, it has to do with how much it would cost to put in passenger screening into every regional airport in the country when there is little to no benefit to it.
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It shouldn't have to be explained how this is a sensible preventative move. Are you waiting for a domestic hijack or massacre on a plane to make such a sensible move? The cost of insignificant against the overall cost of air travel. So what if it adds a few dollars to a ticket?
 
lionking said:
It shouldn't have to be explained how this is a sensible preventative move. Are you waiting for a domestic hijack or massacre on a plane to make such a sensible move? The cost of insignificant against the overall cost of air travel. So what if it adds a few dollars to a ticket?
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Considering it will probably end up happening as a knee jerk reaction after this I think she is a bit of a moot point.
 
lionking said:
I So what if it adds a few dollars to a ticket?
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...can you be a bit more specific?

How many domestic terminals are we talking about here?

What would the cost be to both build screening facilities and to staff those facilities?

And how many extra dollars would be added to each and every ticket?

You seem to know all the answers. Perhaps you could drop a few in this thread.

In the domestic marketplace we've watched as airlines have come and go and now there really is only one airline left. In 2014 Air New Zealand cancelled long-established routes to Kaitaia, Whakatane and Westport and then phased out flights from Whangarei to Wellington, Taupo to Wellington, Palmerston North to Nelson and Hamilton to Auckland. "A few dollars to a ticket" isn't enough to make a difference. It would simply mean remote and isolated communities will no longer have access to domestic flights.

This thread sure has gone strange.
 
William Parcher said:
New Zealand Herald: Police believe one man is responsible for yesterday’s Christchurch massacre - and allege he traveled between two packed mosques and killed at least 49 people. And within 36 minutes - it was all over. He was caught, dragged from a car by two police officers, and taken into custody.
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People are still today claiming there were multiple shooters.

Never let facts get in the way of a good story, I guess.

I might go hunting tomorrow.
 
William Parcher said:
Right now it's moving like a merry-go-round or a hamster wheel.
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If you took out all the misinformation and garbage it'd probably fit on a couple of pages.

All the news media is doing the same - stories are going up and being withdrawn plenty.
 
lionking said:
It shouldn't have to be explained how this is a sensible preventative move. Are you waiting for a domestic hijack or massacre on a plane to make such a sensible move? The cost of insignificant against the overall cost of air travel. So what if it adds a few dollars to a ticket?
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We had a hijacking about a decade back, a cost benefit analysis done at the time determined that it was not cost effective give the extreme unlikelihood of these threats. And we're not talking a dew dollars on a ticket, we are talking costing the Government millions of dollars.

Does Australia have check point all over your major cities stopping people an checking their cars for explosives? Do you check your car each day for explosive devices that might have been planted on it? Why not? More people have died in Australia to car bombs and bombs planted on cars than have ever died in NZ to terrorist attacks on region aircraft. The risk of a hijack or massacre on a regional plane here is simply too low to sustain the costs of preventing it.
 
cullennz said:
That is fantastic, but will it help if I tell you that I am originally from ChCh, regularly travel to Chch from Wellington and or Southland where half my family is, and there is no carry on luggage screening.
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Someone's falling down on the job then. That's the government's own page. Ring up Jacinda & let her know.
 
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