horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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MikeG said:
What on earth is extraordinary about a lone black man being mugged by white guys on the streets of urban America? His producer said "Just another ******* day in America".*

*And before some trigger happy mod jumps on that, that isn't an attempt to get around the censor. That is a quote.
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The noose, the bleach, and now the time frame, are what I find extraordinary.
 
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MikeG said:
What on earth is extraordinary about a lone black man being mugged by white guys on the streets of urban America? His producer said "Just another ******* day in America".*

*And before some trigger happy mod jumps on that, that isn't an attempt to get around the censor. That is a quote.
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probably because here 9 times out of 10 the people doing the mugging are black, and the rest of the time it is a hoax.

Just another day in ******* Chicago
 
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MikeG said:
They might exist in your culture, but not in mine. I don't take any interest in your culture, and most certainly don't follow its news stories. Why should I?
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Not sure exactly what that means, or it's relevance. But in the shared culture that Smollett and I occupy, fake hate crimes are quite common.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I think the cord hanging from the "redneck" clothing was probably the string you use to pull it tight around the waist.
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Yeah, they was hanging around outside of lower water on the third coldest night of the year wearing dress shoes, like rednecks usually do.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I suspect this story will be quietly put on a shelf.
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I suspect that there will be zero evidence, and then there will be no more cooperation, and he will tearfully announce it’s because he is afraid of the police. His fellow travelers will then hold tearful press conferences relating the fears of the police in the black and gay communities.

****, his supporters are already laying that mattress right here in this very thread: "it should be "OBVIOUS" why he didn't give the phone to the Chicago police."

Obvious.
 
They should know two definite times.

When Smollett left the sub place, and when he entered the apartment building.

I think they only know the rough time of the video stills because none of the clocks are synchronized and there is wide variation of the time stamps.
 
11:18 AM PT -- We're told cops recently visited a Target Department Store close to where the incident happened and obtained surveillance footage. Our source says the video shows one person -- presumably Jussie -- walking down the street. Officers also visited a nearby apartment building to ask for video.

That's from TMZ, and if accurate, and he's on his way home, it narrows the short time frame for an attack even more.
 
A lot of selective disbelief in this thread.

Yelling "MAGA Country" in a liberal city is too impossible a thing to be real but a person risking a successful performing career with a lie that seems to have little plausible benefit is likely?

Both behaviors would be odd, but the skepticism that attackers might act in an odd way juxtaposed with the credulity that Smollet would act in a far far stranger way is telling.

The comparisons to Cosby and other celebrities are downright bizarre. There's no mystery to what Cosby had to gain from his actions. He gained a lot of sex. He also wasn't taking much of a risk. He got away with it for decades, and he knew he could. In this case, the risk is obviously large and the benefit difficult to imagine.

This isn't to say that it's impossible that Smollet is lying. But the inconsistency in the way his story is being analyzed and the way alternative theories are is ridiculous.
 
LTC8K6 said:
11:18 AM PT -- We're told cops recently visited a Target Department Store close to where the incident happened and obtained surveillance footage. Our source says the video shows one person -- presumably Jussie -- walking down the street. Officers also visited a nearby apartment building to ask for video.

That's from TMZ, and if accurate, and he's on his way home, it narrows the short time frame for an attack even more.
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I'm not sure if accurate and TMZ go together that well.
 
Cavemonster said:
A lot of selective disbelief in this thread.

Yelling "MAGA Country" in a liberal city is too impossible a thing to be real but a person risking a successful performing career with a lie that seems to have little plausible benefit is likely?

Both behaviors would be odd, but the skepticism that attackers might act in an odd way juxtaposed with the credulity that Smollet would act in a far far stranger way is telling.

The comparisons to Cosby and other celebrities are downright bizarre. There's no mystery to what Cosby had to gain from his actions. He gained a lot of sex. He also wasn't taking much of a risk. He got away with it for decades, and he knew he could. In this case, the risk is obviously large and the benefit difficult to imagine.

This isn't to say that it's impossible that Smollet is lying. But the inconsistency in the way his story is being analyzed and the way alternative theories are is ridiculous.
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As stated, if it had not been for the MAGA country chant, we would not be having this discussion.
And it's not the first time a lot of crap is being promoted under the guise of "Critical Thinking".
And I am going to bell the cat. Most of the supporters here of the SMolett is faking it theory are on the political right.
 
dudalb said:
As stated, if it had not been for the MAGA country chant, we would not be having this discussion.
And it's not the first time a lot of crap is being promoted under the guise of "Critical Thinking".
And I am going to bell the cat. Most of the supporters here of the SMolett is faking it theory are on the political right.
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It's not unprecedented for "hate crimes" to be hoaxed, but I don't really see any compelling evidence that this is the case for the incident being discussed.

Some people just seem to really want this to be a hoax. I'm seeing lots of argument from incredulity being offered, like, why would anybody be wearing a ski mask when it's ten below?
 
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Cavemonster said:
Yelling "MAGA Country" in a liberal city is too impossible a thing to be real but a person risking a successful performing career with a lie that seems to have little plausible benefit is likely?
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It is a bit more than that ain't it? It is not just that they allegedly yelled that ridiculous statement, but that they knew this guy was the "faggot" from Empire.

It is exactly the type of thing that someone would imagine their political boogeymen would yell out.

In the cold, at 2 am, in an area known for homeless and petty drug deals.

And the cops are wasting their time on this ********.
 
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