LeBron James talks like a racist

Mumbles said:
Not really - people of any race could say the exact same thing - still wouldn't be racist.
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James coupled 'old white' men with 'slaveowner mentality', or something like that. That is not an offensive racial stereotype? Being 'white' men had nothing to do with the subject of team ownership
 
Thermal said:
James coupled 'old white' men with 'slaveowner mentality', or something like that. That is not an offensive racial stereotype? Being 'white' men had nothing to do with the subject of team ownership
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I'm not familiar with the stereotype. I can't recall a stereotype about certain people being grouped as slave owners.
 
baron said:
He's associating negativity with the concept of being white. Pretty much racism by definition.
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False. He's contrasting the attitude of the NFL owners towards the players on their teams (controlling, commandeering), top the attitude the NBA owners have towards the players on their teams (much friendlier, more accommodating). Both sets of owners are mostly white, both sets of players mostly black. Not racist pretty much by definition.
 
Thermal said:
Ok. Social science is not a forum member. SS is not being asked to opine. Would you consider James to be immune to accusations of racism based on being black?
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Given what I've said about black supremacists, no.
 
Mumbles said:
False. He's contrasting the attitude of the NFL owners towards the players on their teams (controlling, commandeering), top the attitude the NBA owners have towards the players on their teams (much friendlier, more accommodating). Both sets of owners are mostly white, both sets of players mostly black. Not racist pretty much by definition.
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So what if they're white? The only conceivable reason for mentioning it is by way of a negative reference. I'm sure they're all short as compared to the players, but he didn't say short men. White, to fit in with slave owners, because we all know that's what whites are like, oppressors, and whites are the only ones to ever own slaves, which are all black. You can kid yourself all day about how this isn't racist but you're fooling nobody.
 
baron said:
So what if they're white? The only conceivable reason for mentioning it is by way of a negative reference. I'm sure they're all short as compared to the players, but he didn't say short men. White, to fit in with slave owners, because we all know that's what whites are like, oppressors, and whites are the only ones to ever own slaves, which are all black. You can kid yourself all day about how this isn't racist but you're fooling nobody.
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Meanwhile in Zimbabwe, I bet the children in the diamond-asbestos-mercury-lead-uranium mines are telling their child soldier guards, life may be ****, but at least we are not American NFL sports star slaves.

I am sure if we ask them nicely they will be happy to donate a portion of their daily food and clothes rations to the Lebron James USA sports slave fund.
 
Hungry81 said:
Meanwhile in Zimbabwe, I bet the children in the diamond-asbestos-mercury-lead-uranium mines are telling their child soldier guards, life may be ****, but at least we are not American NFL sports star slaves.

I am sure if we ask them nicely they will be happy to donate a portion of their daily food and clothes rations to the Lebron James USA sports slave fund.
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Yeah, if there is even the slightest possibility that someone somewhere might be worse off than you, you are not allowed to complain about anything ever.
 
Hungry81 said:
Meanwhile in Zimbabwe, I bet the children in the diamond-asbestos-mercury-lead-uranium mines are telling their child soldier guards, life may be ****, but at least we are not American NFL sports star slaves.

I am sure if we ask them nicely they will be happy to donate a portion of their daily food and clothes rations to the Lebron James USA sports slave fund.
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Somebody should because how else can you get by on $1m a week? On top of that, they are apparently required to do what their boss tells them. I mean, who else is forced to endure such indignity?
 
baron said:
So what if they're white? The only conceivable reason for mentioning it is by way of a negative reference. I'm sure they're all short as compared to the players, but he didn't say short men. White, to fit in with slave owners, because we all know that's what whites are like, oppressors, and whites are the only ones to ever own slaves, which are all black. You can kid yourself all day about how this isn't racist but you're fooling nobody.
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But he is comparing and contrasting to same sized groups of white owners. So it isn't a racial attribute he is critiquing.

The Google search dictionary gives two definitions of racism

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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That doesn't describe what he said. Is the word you are looking for is "racial?"
 
BobTheCoward said:
But he is comparing and contrasting to same sized groups of white owners. So it isn't a racial attribute he is critiquing.

The Google search dictionary gives two definitions of racism



That doesn't describe what he said. Is the word you are looking for is "racial?"
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Nope, it's what I said, racist. The definition is right there, you quoted it:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
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His specific reference to the race of the group, white, in a negative context is a clear intimation that blacks would be superior in that role. It's actually one of the best examples of racism on these boards in some while.
 
baron said:
Nope, it's what I said, racist. The definition is right there, you quoted it:



His specific reference to the race of the group, white, in a negative context is a clear intimation that blacks would be superior in that role. It's actually one of the best examples of racism on these boards in some while.
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I see no intimation blacks would be better when he explicitly says a different group of whites is already doing it better.
 
baron said:
So what if they're white? The only conceivable reason for mentioning it is by way of a negative reference. I'm sure they're all short as compared to the players, but he didn't say short men. White, to fit in with slave owners, because we all know that's what whites are like, oppressors, and whites are the only ones to ever own slaves, which are all black. You can kid yourself all day about how this isn't racist but you're fooling nobody.
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And what's the issue of stating that the owners are white, if they are white?

This reminds me of people who throw a fit when labeled "straight" or "cis". It seems a lot like they want to have no label, to just be normal, while those other people get a label, because they're "not normal". Doesn't work that way. m The NFL owners are old white guys who treat players (regardless of *their* race)m like slaves. The NBA owners are often old white men as well, but don't expect players (again, regardless of race) to bow to their every whim. Thus, why Bron can get away with things that got Kaepernick run out of the NFL entirely.
 
Thermal said:
Sorry, what? You had 5 posts ITT and I didn't see a word about black supremacists.
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I see no need to do it here. Feel free to search for my name and, say, "Farrakhan". But this is of no relevance to the thread.

Lambchops said:
Yeah, if there is even the slightest possibility that someone somewhere might be worse off than you, you are not allowed to complain about anything ever.
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Even stranger, given that Bron was already discussing the treatment of others in the oh-so-horrible partial statement given in the OP.

(and I'll notice that none of his detractors seem even dimly aware of his charitable contributions.)
 
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