Qanon Conspiracy theories

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BStrong said:
Talk about nonsense.

Back in Catholic grade school we wore school uniforms.

Our K-6 mentality had several strongly held opinions on colors of clothing worn by the public school kids -"X" color meant they were queer if a boy, "X" color on a girl meant they were "easy."

This Q **** is samey-same. Nonsense.
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But the Pope often wears red shoes! Coincidence? I think not...
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Bubba said:
We know that people create symbols for their organizations/interests. Ben Swann's CBS 'Reality Check' showed some pedophile symbology which the FBI already identified.
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Stupid people create symbols, which is why the FBI is able to track them down and put them into prison (unless their lawyer makes a deal with a guy who is now part of Trump's cabinet).

Smart people still use handshakes and maybe a code phrase for identification. Once confirmed they don't use code, don't talk on the internet in code, and are careful about using their phones.

The fact that you constantly refer to the Ben Swann piece shows you have done zero research into this subject. It also points out that you are a hypocrite because here you are QUOTING A MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCE WHILE TELLING US THE MSN IS CONTROLLED BY "THEM".

(which is why your posts are comedy gold)

Its a given the FBI or Interpol etc would study film and other art forms for info in some investigation. Whether fiction or true, hollywood loves to include whatever symbology goes with the story line.
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They study facts, and physical evidence, and confirm information obtained during interrogations, and written confessions.

I'm a writer, I write action thrillers, and I use the same open-source materials they use. When FBI and CIA documents are declassified I read those to and tweak my research. There are a lot of facts in my stories, but they are usually altered to fit the narrative, and this is true for any work of quality fiction.


So the red shoes thing was mentioned in a creepy movie and it shows up in art, including Podesta's. Merely circumstantial evidence. "Artwork of interest" as some law enforcement officers say.
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And what did ruby slippers represent in the Wizard of Oz?

You expect us to believe that Podesta, a man who made a few enemies in Washington, is a known pedo-ringmaster, and yet after 8 years of Bush, and 2 years of Trump DoJ's nobody has been able to build a case?

Maybe its nothing, maybe its something. What I find odd is the jumping to conclusions with the bluster and certainty I see. How is that being a skeptic?
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After all of these pages you have yet to present any evidence, so yes, we're skeptical.:thumbsup:
 
The accusation of Pedophile is just the latest incarnation of "Faggot", which came after "Commie", which came shortly after "Witch".
It is just character assassination that works in the absence of any proof whatsoever.
 
Bubba said:
We know that people create symbols for their organizations/interests. Ben Swann's CBS 'Reality Check' showed some pedophile symbology which the FBI already identified.

Its a given the FBI or Interpol etc would study film and other art forms for info in some investigation. Whether fiction or true, hollywood loves to include whatever symbology goes with the story line.


So the red shoes thing was mentioned in a creepy movie and it shows up in art, including Podesta's. Merely circumstantial evidence. "Artwork of interest" as some law enforcement officers say.

Maybe its nothing, maybe its something. What I find odd is the jumping to conclusions with the bluster and certainty I see. How is that being a skeptic?
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Podesta can see dead people?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The accusation of Pedophile is just the latest incarnation of "Faggot", which came after "Commie", which came shortly after "Witch".
It is just character assassination that works in the absence of any proof whatsoever.
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I hadn't thought of it that way. That does seem to fit well, and clear up some confusion I had about the whole motivation thing.
 
Axxman300 said:
Stupid people create symbols, which is why the FBI is able to track them down and put them into prison (unless their lawyer makes a deal with a guy who is now part of Trump's cabinet).

Smart people still use handshakes and maybe a code phrase for identification. Once confirmed they don't use code, don't talk on the internet in code, and are careful about using their phones.

The fact that you constantly refer to the Ben Swann piece shows you have done zero research into this subject. It also points out that you are a hypocrite because here you are QUOTING A MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCE WHILE TELLING US THE MSN IS CONTROLLED BY "THEM".

(which is why your posts are comedy gold)



They study facts, and physical evidence, and confirm information obtained during interrogations, and written confessions.

I'm a writer, I write action thrillers, and I use the same open-source materials they use. When FBI and CIA documents are declassified I read those to and tweak my research. There are a lot of facts in my stories, but they are usually altered to fit the narrative, and this is true for any work of quality fiction.




And what did ruby slippers represent in the Wizard of Oz?

You expect us to believe that Podesta, a man who made a few enemies in Washington, is a known pedo-ringmaster, and yet after 8 years of Bush, and 2 years of Trump DoJ's nobody has been able to build a case?



After all of these pages you have yet to present any evidence, so yes, we're skeptical.:thumbsup:
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With real world ops, most professionals already know who they're meeting and why - no code words or secret handshakes required.

All the various fictional depictions of tradecraft have went out the window with the advent of personal electronic devices (more so with PGP and other encryption programs) The days of old torn dollar bills and the photograph taped to the inside of the forearm are long gone.
 
The fact that you constantly refer to the Ben Swann piece shows you have done zero research into this subject. It also points out that you are a hypocrite because here you are QUOTING A MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCE WHILE TELLING US THE MSN IS CONTROLLED BY "THEM".
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Since it was noted the MSM (other than Ben Swann) did not report the FBI findings and since it was noted that no other MSM followed up, posting it here was an example of controlled MSM. Sometimes stuff gets aired, and then disappears. Often its the earliest reports which disappear after being briefly aired.

Such as the earliest reports on John John's death, which was that the Coast Guard reported he made contact with the tower at Martha's Vineyard airport shortly before disappearing. Then the Coast Guard disappeared for about twelve hours. Then the Air Force shows up doing the Coast Guard's job, except they moved the search location 100+ miles away from where he was when he contacted the tower.

Ben Swann's report went like that. So your comment about MSM is lame. So is your comment about the red shoes on the pope and Dorothy's ruby red shoes. Intellectual dishonesty. Lame.
 
Federal Judge Opens Discovery Into Clinton Email Usage


Judicial Watch announced today that, in a ruling excoriating both the U.S. Departments of State and Justice, U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth has ordered both agencies to join Judicial Watch in submitting a proposed schedule for discovery into whether Hillary Clinton sought to evade the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)…
 
BStrong said:
With real world ops, most professionals already know who they're meeting and why - no code words or secret handshakes required.

All the various fictional depictions of tradecraft have went out the window with the advent of personal electronic devices (more so with PGP and other encryption programs) The days of old torn dollar bills and the photograph taped to the inside of the forearm are long gone.
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Yup. Gone are the days of the empty Coke bottle by the telephone pole along a rural road, or an X marked in chalk on a mailbox.

As far as real pedophiles go, the Dark Web and encryption seem to be their go-to communication platforms.
 
Bubba said:
Since it was noted the MSM (other than Ben Swann) did not report the FBI findings and since it was noted that no other MSM followed up, posting it here was an example of controlled MSM. Sometimes stuff gets aired, and then disappears. Often its the earliest reports which disappear after being briefly aired.
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Everything you wrote here is a lie. Let's break them down:

The FBI didn't find anything because the FBI didn't investigate Podesta nor the two pizza parlors involved...because there was nothing to investigate. So the MSM not reporting something that didn't happen is what we here in Skeptic Land call "consistent" .

There was no follow up, even by Swann, because there was nothing to follow up.

Here is the New York Times write-up of Pizzagate, and no, you're not going to like it, but the NYT is MSM.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html

The earliest reports disappear because they're often incorrect.


Such as the earliest reports on John John's death, which was that the Coast Guard reported he made contact with the tower at Martha's Vineyard airport shortly before disappearing. Then the Coast Guard disappeared for about twelve hours. Then the Air Force shows up doing the Coast Guard's job, except they moved the search location 100+ miles away from where he was when he contacted the tower.
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Everything here is a lie.

JFK Jr never called the tower at Martha's Vinyard once he was airborne, and never made radio contact with anyone. The Coast Guard AND the ANG went to work because that's what happens when a US Senator's nephew, who is the only son of a former POTUS, goes missing over water. The USCG kept multiple logs and there is no indication they were ever called off. You also left out the US Navy was also deployed.

The plane was located 4 days later, the occupants had died on impact, so there was no one to rescue.

Grownups can read about the events of JFK Jr's death here:

https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/accident-reports/which-way-is-up-john-f-kennedy-jr-plane-crash/

Ben Swann's report went like that. So your comment about MSM is lame. So is your comment about the red shoes on the pope and Dorothy's ruby red shoes. Intellectual dishonesty. Lame
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Why didn't Ben Swann follow up himself? He's a reporter, what changed his mind?
 
Bubba said:
Federal Judge Opens Discovery Into Clinton Email Usage


Judicial Watch announced today that, in a ruling excoriating both the U.S. Departments of State and Justice, U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth has ordered both agencies to join Judicial Watch in submitting a proposed schedule for discovery into whether Hillary Clinton sought to evade the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)…
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Great.
That should clear up things for Clinton before she runs in 2020.
 
Axxman300 said:
Yup. Gone are the days of the empty Coke bottle by the telephone pole along a rural road, or an X marked in chalk on a mailbox.

As far as real pedophiles go, the Dark Web and encryption seem to be their go-to communication platforms.
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and apparently the series 'Red Shoe Diaries'. who knew? well, except the resident sleeper agent.
 
Axxman300 said:
Everything you wrote here is a lie. Let's break them down:

The FBI didn't find anything because the FBI didn't investigate Podesta nor the two pizza parlors involved...because there was nothing to investigate. So the MSM not reporting something that didn't happen is what we here in Skeptic Land call "consistent" .

There was no follow up, even by Swann, because there was nothing to follow up.

Here is the New York Times write-up of Pizzagate, and no, you're not going to like it, but the NYT is MSM.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html

The earliest reports disappear because they're often incorrect.




Everything here is a lie.

JFK Jr never called the tower at Martha's Vinyard once he was airborne, and never made radio contact with anyone. The Coast Guard AND the ANG went to work because that's what happens when a US Senator's nephew, who is the only son of a former POTUS, goes missing over water. The USCG kept multiple logs and there is no indication they were ever called off. You also left out the US Navy was also deployed.

The plane was located 4 days later, the occupants had died on impact, so there was no one to rescue.

Grownups can read about the events of JFK Jr's death here:

https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/accident-reports/which-way-is-up-john-f-kennedy-jr-plane-crash/
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So goes the official story.


You omitted the part where the news footage with the Coast Guard officer reporting his call to the airport tower disappeared, and the other oddities statists shy away from.
 
Of course Macaulay Culkin and Mel Gibson need to be painted as crazy wackjobs. After all, if serious investigation of hollywood pedophiles happens, goodness knows who else might get caught in the net.
 
Bubba said:
Of course Macaulay Culkin and Mel Gibson need to be painted as crazy wackjobs. After all, if serious investigation of hollywood pedophiles happens, goodness knows who else might get caught in the net.
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You don't think Mel Gibson is a crazy wackjob?
 
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