Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

[jsfisher]

No worries, the sphere membrane of precessing ring currents around the nucleus is quite stable.

You are not assuming that based on that brief article you didn't read, now are you?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Thankfully nature also makes it difficult to achieve low energy states.

Then nature does not seek the low energy state. Both your statements are too simplistic.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Huh? It's only an analogy that demonstrates the conversion of a 2D planar surface to a closed 2D surface.

So I asked you about the physics and you responded by posting an analogy that you admit is inapt?

 

[ferd burfle]

4th quarter report

The graphite dome of the SunCell would not survive long at the operating temperatures claimed, 426-1426 C. From POCO, a leading producer of graphite:

Temperature Effects
The differences in oxidation behavior of the various grades of graphite are widest at the lowest tempera- tures, tending to disappear as the temperature increases. The “oxidation threshold temperature,” defined as that at which a sample loses approximately one percent of its weight in 24 hours, is about 570°C for purified graphite, while nonpurified graphite is about 430°C (Figure 18-1).
The oxidation of graphite is highly temperature- dependent. At temperatures up to about 350°C, no detectable oxidation occurs. As the temperature is increased, the rate of reaction increases rapidly, according to the Arrhenius equation.
http://poco.com/Portals/0/Literature/Semiconductor/IND-109441-0115.pdf​

Note also the oxidation rate vs temperature for purified graphite in the top right graph on the following page. The data here are for pyrolytic rather than natural graphites. In testing, the % weight loss is highly dependent on surface/volume ratio of the sample but there's no way the dome has a useful lifetime at 1426 C. I expect Mills and his fans could offer any of a dozen ad hoc reasons why this isn't a problem.

 

[abaddon]

Dihydrino gas does not have anti gravity properties.

How do you know that?

 

[abaddon]

I see this is a thread for science fiction and fantasy speculations wonder if anyone can help out.

With unicorns are the genes responsible for the horn dominate or recessive? If we examine the DNA of horses could we find the horn gene?

Easy. If you rub a horse on a narwhal it will give birth to unicorns.

 

[jonesdave116]

Easy. If you rub a horse on a narwhal it will give birth to unicorns.

As Michael Caine would say, "not a lot of people know that!"

 

[Reality Check]

No he doesn't make them act as small spherical particles on collision.

I know that the deluded Mills does not do that. That is what real electrons do in the real world. Free and bound electrons act as "small spherical particles", especially free colliding electrons.

I have read Mills delusions about electrons and the rest of his ignorance, delusions and lies in his book as you know, markie.
Mills hydrino is delusional theoretical physics because his book is full of ignorance, delusions and even lies.

 

[Reality Check]

Interesting. A few days ago you were insisting that electrons are point particles, now they are spheres - which is it?

It was a post for markie and his persistent delusion that an ignorant, deluded and lying Mills is right so I did not waste my time being precise to try to educate the uneducable.

When electrons scatter, the force between them is the Coulomb force caused by their charge. It is the charge that is spherical. What scattering of free electrons shows is that electrons act as if they have a spherical charge, i.e. their charge is not spread over a disk as in Mills' delusions.

Electrons are point particles with a spherical charge.

 

[Reality Check]

Thankfully nature also makes it difficult to achieve low energy states. If not, our Sun would have turned into a hydrogen bomb billions of years ago.

You have it the wrong way around as usual, markie. Mills is not a god who can force the universe to act as he wants it to. All of his imagined catalysts exist in stars. The existence of the Sun is evidence that hydrinos do not exist.

 

[JeanTate]

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Given that hydrinos comprise most of what is called dark matter, hydrinos are much more common than normal hydrogen. If in outer space three hydrogen atoms collide near simultaneously, hydrino can form, and hydrino in turn can catalyze more hydrino formation. Given enough time, hydrino will accumulate in space, while space fills with the resultant UV and eUV light. This high energy light then ends up ionizing ordinary hydrogen in space. So one is left with anomalous amounts of both ionized hydrogen and UV in outer space, and there are not enough conventional sources to explain it.


From https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sc...e-has-all-the-light-in-the-universe-gone.html

But, according to a new study in Astrophysical Journal Letters, the hydrogen tendrils suggest there is far more ultraviolet light around than is being emitted by galaxies and quasars.
An astonishing five times too much, in fact, and it is leading astrophysicists to speculate that the photons could be coming from an "exotic new source", or even decaying dark matter.
It means that 80 per cent of light in the universe is effectively missing.
...
“You know it’s a crisis when you start seriously talking about decaying dark matter,” Katz added.
“The great thing about a 400 per cent discrepancy is that you know something is really wrong,” said co-author David Weinberg of the Ohio State University.
“We still don’t know for sure what it is, but at least one thing we thought we knew about the present day universe isn’t true.”

(my hilite)

markie, you really, really shouldn't try to wing it, it just makes you look, well, ill-informed (ignorant, ...).

If, as you claim, "hydrinos comprise most of what is called dark matter":

1) At what redshift did hydrinos form?
2) What is the signal, in the CMB, showing the formation of hydrinos?
3) Do hydrinos emit 21 cm radiation? If so, at what wavelength/frequency? If not, why not?
4) Why is the hydrino equivalent of 21 cm radiation so weak in the ICM (intra-cluster medium)?
5) What references can you give for papers reporting that the UV and EUV background is due to hydrinos, directly or indirectly?
(I could go on, the obvious list is very long, but this will do for now).

 

[JeanTate]

The probability drops way down going from a two body to a three body collision, especially in rarified media like outer space.

But, but, but ... in high density media such as the centers of stars, such collisions should be very common, shouldn't they?

And if we accept your claim, why don't white dwarf stars with hydrogen rich surfaces instantly turn into particularly brilliant supernovae?

 

[The Man]

Thankfully nature also makes it difficult to achieve low energy states. If not, our Sun would have turned into a hydrogen bomb billions of years ago.
Similarly in chemistry one has 'activation energy' that is a barrier to exothermic reactions resulting in a lower energy state.

Our sun is a hydrogen bomb and has been for billions of years.

ETA:

Since you are now apparently asserting an "'activation energy'" for a positive ion to capture an electron, what then is this ""'activation energy'" for a proton to form hydrogen?

 

[Reality Check]

Huh? It's only an analogy that demonstrates the conversion of a 2D planar surface to a closed 2D surface.

More science is analogy idiocy, markie.

It is mathematically impossible to convert a flat sheet into a sphere (Mills' disk and sphere delusions). You either have to cut bits out of the disk or create an infinite folds to fit it around the sphere.

You also are missing out Mills insanity about his disk having a different size from his deluded sphere.

 

[The Man]

The probability drops way down going from a two body to a three body collision, especially in rarified media like outer space.

Good thing a crap load of hydrogen ain't "rarified".

 

[Reality Check]

The probability drops way down going from a two body to a three body collision, especially in rarified media like outer space.

Congratulations, markie, you have ignored the existence of stars! And the location of the vast majority of dark matter - in between galaxy clusters.

 

[Reality Check]

Mindless parroting o Mill's delusion that hydrinos are dark matter

Given that hydrinos comprise most of what is called dark matter,...

10 December 2018 markie: Mindless parroting o Mill's delusion that hydrinos are " what is called " dark matter.

One more time: Dark matter is called dark matter because it is observed to not emit light or interact electromagnetically. The evidence is that dark matter is non-baryonic matter. Hydrogen is baryonic matter. Mills' insanity does not change this.

 

[Reality Check]

One is left with markie's personal UV delusion about Mills' delusions

So one is left with anomalous amounts of both ionized hydrogen and UV in outer space, and there are not enough conventional sources to explain it.

10 December 2018 markie: One is left with markie's personal UV delusion about Mills' delusions.

markie links to a 2014 Telegraph newspaper article on "a new study in Astrophysical Journal Letters". It does not cite that paper. markie does not cite that paper. The description is that galaxies do not produce the level of ultraviolet light that the authors found. All that markie knows is that it is ultraviolet light and so he makes up a personal delusion that it is the specific UV light from Mills' delusions !

Sceince progresses. Google exists: Photon underproduction crisis

The photon underproduction crisis is resolved by a series of recent papers. Khaire & Srianand [6] showed that a factor 2 to 5 times large metagalactic photoionization rate can be easily obtained using updated quasar and galaxy observations. Recent observations of quasars indicate that the quasar contribution to ultraviolet photons is factor 2 large as compared to previous estimates. The revised galaxy contribution is also factor 3 higher. Furthermore, the Kollmeier GADGET-2 simulations did not include heating from active galactic nuclei (AGN) feedback. Including AGN feedback was shown to be an important element for heating in the low redshift intergalactic medium (IGM) (Gurvich, Burkhart, & Bird 2016.[7]). This implies that the low redshift COS data can be used to calibrate AGN feedback models in cosmological simulations.

 

[markie]

But, but, but ... in high density media such as the centers of stars, such collisions should be very common, shouldn't they?

And if we accept your claim, why don't white dwarf stars with hydrogen rich surfaces instantly turn into particularly brilliant supernovae?

Hydrogen is mostly ionized at temperatures greater than about 10,000K. Hydrino formation requires neutral hydrogen. One is not going to find neutral hydrogen in the centre of the sun, nor on the surface of a white dwarf.

 

[Red Baron Farms]

Hydrogen is mostly ionized at temperatures greater than about 10,000K. Hydrino formation requires neutral hydrogen. One is not going to find neutral hydrogen in the centre of the sun, nor on the surface of a white dwarf.

And one is not going to find hydrinos anywhere at all.

BTW I did notice you completely ignored your mistake in believing dark matter would be buoyant in Earth's atmosphere.

You finally ready to admit hydrinos don't exist?