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Hawking says there are no gods

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JayUtah said:
The question is immaterial. Do you concede that your claims to expertise have no evidentiary value in this forum?
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So what is immaterial in physical terms?
Everything is physical and this is also physical in this thread. Yet you refuse to answer with science.
 
Tommy Jeppesen said:
Everything is physical so please answer with physics.
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I'm not interested in your various knee-jerk evasions. You have made a claim to expertise which you refuse to defend, and based nearly your entire argument upon it. Do you concede that your claim to expertise has no evidentiary value in this forum?
 
If we somehow succeed in arguing him into a corner in this thread, he'll just do a full fringe reset next thread and drown out the people making the same wrong arguments he is as always.
 
JayUtah said:
I'm not interested in your various knee-jerk evasions. You have made a claim to expertise which you refuse to defend, and based nearly your entire argument upon it. Do you concede that your claim to expertise has no evidentiary value in this forum?
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It works both ways.

You are an expert. Everything is physical so please answer with physics.
 
JoeMorgue said:
If we somehow succeed in arguing him into a corner in this thread...
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I'll suggest that he already knows he's in a corner, which is why he's desperately throwing out meaningless gobbledy-gook as a pretense to trying to put his critics on the spot instead. He's frantically trying to make it look like the ball is not in his court. Unfortunately we've finally exposed the only pillar under Tommy's argument, and he's not willing to let anyone hit it.
 
JayUtah said:
I'll suggest that he already knows he's in a corner, which is why he's desperately throwing out meaningless gobbledy-gook as a pretense to trying to put his critics on the spot instead. He's frantically trying to make it look like the ball is not in his court. Unfortunately we've finally exposed the only pillar under Tommy's argument, and he's not willing to let anyone hit it.
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Everything is physical so please answer with physics.
 
JoeMorgue said:
If we somehow succeed in arguing him into a corner in this thread, he'll just do a full fringe reset next thread and drown out the people making the same wrong arguments he is as always.
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Not directly responding is an effective "Off" button.
 
JayUtah said:
No. Evading an uncomfortable question by asking irrelevant questions in return is not how it works.

Do you concede that your claims to expertise have no evidentiary value in this forum?
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Do you concede that you can't answer as a physicist, as to how we can disagree?
 
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JayUtah said:
Not even a coherent sentence. How desperate can you get to avoid a question? Do you concede that your claims to expertise have no evidentiary value in this forum?
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All of that which I am as you know for a fact, please explain using physics.
I know you can't, because we have left physics long time ago and entered in effect morality/ethics.
That is the limits of your evidence.

There is no physical theory of being wrong as human.

I don't hold authority over you and you don't either.
 
ynot said:
Sorry for my nagging.
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It's a valid point. Not feeding the trolls achieves the result of depriving them of attention. However, if done prematurely or dismissively, it also has the effect of providing a silence from which an spurious claim of victory can be argued. This is how Jabba worked. People often gave up on him because he was just as prolific at stone-walling as Tommy has been. Jabba then boasted that he had bested them in debate with his superior intellect and skills, and that's why they went away. Hence there is a sort of art in making sure there is enough of a claimant's foolishness on the record to preclude crowing of that sort.
 
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