Hawking says there are no gods

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kellyb said:
I have a friend who's actually kind of in the middle. She says she "seriously suspects" there "might" be some sort of god, but she doesn't exactly actively believe in one, either.

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I put the probability of there being some sort of deity out there at around .2%. I put "brain in a vat" theory at .1%. There are some people who put both at literally 0%.
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If she doesn't believe in a god she is an atheist. Again the "confusion" arises because people treat atheism as being a statement of knowledge regarding god or gods; it isn't it is a statement about belief, in the case of atheism not having a belief in a god or gods.
 
psionl0 said:
Classic appeal to authority. Hawking may be a great scientist but he is no philosopher. Yet many are being sucked in.
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Now you're putting the existence of gods into the philosophical category and outside the physical world? :boggled:

BTW, an expert in a field giving an opinion within that field is not what the appeal to authority fallacy is. You might want to look that one up.
 
Darat said:
If she doesn't believe in a god she is an atheist. Again the "confusion" arises because people treat atheism as being a statement of knowledge regarding god or gods; it isn't it is a statement about belief, in the case of atheism not having a belief in a god or gods.
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But she kind of believes in a god. She's 50/50 or 51/49 on it.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Now you're putting the existence of gods into the philosophical category and outside the physical world? :boggled:

BTW, an expert in a field giving an opinion within that field is not what the appeal to authority fallacy is. You might want to look that one up.
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Science is not reality. Science and what scientists can do, is a part of reality, but it is not all of reality.
 
psionl0 said:
Yes but not about Gods. Many uncritical thinkers believe that because he gives a POV on the subject that he is saying something scientific.
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Again you are just declaring "Philosophy" over everything because you say so.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Now you're putting the existence of gods into the philosophical category and outside the physical world? :boggled:

BTW, an expert in a field giving an opinion within that field is not what the appeal to authority fallacy is. You might want to look that one up.
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You know, I would say an astrophysicist is an expert in figuring out the core nature of reality - what exists and what does not.
 
Tommy Jeppesen said:
There is more that science, because if there was only science, there would no humans. There was humans, before there was science. Even there was life in general, before science.
Humans or life in general don't need science.
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You pretending (yes pretending, I don't buy this for a second) that you don't understand the difference between physical things and conceptual ideas is growing rude.

Please, what gibberish do you have for me to respond to this?
 
JoeMorgue said:
You pretending (yes pretending, I don't buy this for a second) that you don't understand the difference between physical things and conceptual ideas is growing rude.

Please, what gibberish do you have for me to respond to this?
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How are physical things and conceptual ideas connected?
 
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