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Segnosaur said:
And in a more unusual twist of fate:

From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...against-trump-effort-to-rollback-mercury-rule
A leading US energy company is lobbying against the Trump administration’s move to roll back a major Obama-era environmental regulation, arguing that weakening a rule on mercury emissions would potentially kill jobs...

Seems strange... a company actually thinks removal of regulations is a bad thing. And I think everyone here recognizes that mercury is not a good thing to have in the environment. I wonder why the Trump administration would be so eager to roll back regulations that even many companies think is a good thing?

The Trump administration’s effort to change the mercury rule...is seen as benefitting one company in particular: Murray Energy Company, one of the largest US coal companies. Murray, which is controlled by Robert Murray, a major donor to Trump’s inauguration events...

Oh, THAT explains it.

Don't worry. I'm sure the courts will help protect everyone.

The coal industry already challenged the mercury rule and lost its case in 2014. One judge on the DC circuit, Brett Kavanaugh, who was recently confirmed to the supreme court, dissented in that case...

Oh oh.
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Having worked in two different manufacturing industries (communications electronics, and specialty chemicals), I can tell you that the existence of regulations is a curse for time to market, and a blessing for sales.
 
LSSBB said:
A leading US energy company is lobbying against the Trump administration’s move to roll back a major Obama-era environmental regulation, arguing that weakening a rule on mercury emissions would potentially kill jobs...
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Having worked in two different manufacturing industries (communications electronics, and specialty chemicals), I can tell you that the existence of regulations is a curse for time to market, and a blessing for sales.
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I figure the issue of sunk costs would probably be a part of it... if you've already invested in complying with a regulation, you don't want to see the money you invested as somehow being a "loss" (especially if there are other companies who have not yet complied with the regulations, or who may backslide, and thus undercut you financially.)
 
Trump on the court decision over reporters pass

“We are writing up rules and regulations to make a position. I think you were treated very unfairly, and both of you, unfairly, because you have somebody interrupting you, and if they don’t listen to rules and regulations, we will end up back in court, and we will win.
But more importantly, we’ll just leave. And then you won’t be very happy because we do get good ratings.
Decorum. You can’t take three and four questions and just stand up and not sit down. You have to practice decorum.
You were there. You understood. And you understand. We want total freedom of the press.
That’s very important to me. More important to me and anybody would believe but you have to act with respect.
You are in the White House. When I see the way some of my people get treated at press conferences, it is terrible.
We are setting up a certain standard which is what the court is requesting. But that’s the way it is. And we always have the option of just leaving.
You know? If we feel that things aren’t being treated properly, that people aren’t being treated properly, we always have the right to leave and I think the other media, the other press in the room will not be very happy if that happens and I instructed my people when they’re not treated properly, you have the right to just leave.
It's not a big deal. What they (the court) said, though, is that we have to create rules and regulations for conduct, etcetera. We're going to write them up. It's not a big deal. If he misbehaves, we'll throw him out."
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
FWIW, I've not seen a primary source on this, but I've seen it alleged that Trump's answers to Mueller's questions will mostly consist of quotes that are already in the public domain. I'd guess that his lawyers will be doing so in the hopes that this will avoid any contradictions.
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:sdl:

There's a Tweet for everything no matter which side of the line the answer lies.


Oou, a pun without trying. :p
 
Segnosaur said:
And in a more unusual twist of fate:

From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...against-trump-effort-to-rollback-mercury-rule
A leading US energy company is lobbying against the Trump administration’s move to roll back a major Obama-era environmental regulation, arguing that weakening a rule on mercury emissions would potentially kill jobs...

Seems strange... a company actually thinks removal of regulations is a bad thing. And I think everyone here recognizes that mercury is not a good thing to have in the environment. I wonder why the Trump administration would be so eager to roll back regulations that even many companies think is a good thing?

The Trump administration’s effort to change the mercury rule...is seen as benefitting one company in particular: Murray Energy Company, one of the largest US coal companies. Murray, which is controlled by Robert Murray, a major donor to Trump’s inauguration events...

Oh, THAT explains it.

Don't worry. I'm sure the courts will help protect everyone.

The coal industry already challenged the mercury rule and lost its case in 2014. One judge on the DC circuit, Brett Kavanaugh, who was recently confirmed to the supreme court, dissented in that case...

Oh oh.
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Wow. :(:mad:
 
Segnosaur said:
I figure the issue of sunk costs would probably be a part of it... if you've already invested in complying with a regulation, you don't want to see the money you invested as somehow being a "loss" (especially if there are other companies who have not yet complied with the regulations, or who may backslide, and thus undercut you financially.)
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Actually, it's an opening for opportunities. Often for a business to meet regulations, it will need to buy someone else's goods and services to make that hapoen.
 
JoeMorgue said:
1,280,000 active duty, 800,000 reservist, 20 million veterans, and I can't find any hard statistics on this but I figure what, 2-3 million is a safe broad guesstimate for "Military Family Members" kind of thing

I'd say 25 million people who consider themselves "Military" or Military Related in some fashion is probably in the ballpark. Slightly more than the population of Florida. That's a demographic to be sure, but it's impossible to tell how much of unified voting demographic they are, especially since the military tends to skew young.
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I think you're underestimating the families. But I wasn't trying to suggest that everybody would turn on him, it's just that every time he disrespects the military more people actually affiliated with the military are going to go "you know what? I don't want to vote for this guy again". And I'd have thought that nobody would care more about honouring dead soldiers than other soldiers.
 
Segnosaur said:
Seems strange... a company actually thinks removal of regulations is a bad thing.
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I haven't been able to find a citation, but during my recent annual HAZWOPER refresher, the instructor told us that the Trump administration had filed a lawsuit to compel OSHA to roll-back the implementation of GHS as part of the hazard communication regulation. It's an international standard for the hazard information on chemical labels and safety data sheets. The rationale for the suit was that converting to GHS would cost companies too much money.
A trade organization representing multiple major chemical manufacturers has filed a counter suit to block Trump's suit ... because the changeover to GHS was finished three years ago, and it would cost a fortune to revert back to the old regulations.
 
Emoluments case keeps moving:

A federal judge in Maryland will allow Maryland and D.C. officials access to the Trump Organization’s business records, dealing another blow to President Donald Trump’s effort to stop a lawsuit claiming his -- and his family’s -- ownership of a Washington, D.C., hotel have put him at odds with the Constitution's prohibition on government officials accepting payments from foreign states without permission from Congress.

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Senior U.S. District Court Judge Peter Messitte on Friday denied the Justice Department’s request to put the case on hold while the administration seeks an appeal, and he ordered the plaintiffs to present a schedule for accessing hotel records and other confidential materials within 20 days.

In a memorandum supporting his decision, the judge emphasized his continued disagreement with the Trump administration's interpretation of the Constitution's Emoluments Clause, enacted out of concern officials overseas might take gifts or bribes. “Even now it remains unclear, as it did in connection with the President’s original motion to dismiss, exactly how he came to his view of the meaning of ‘emolument,’” the judge wrote.

“What he said in his Motion to Dismiss and repeats now is that the President would have to receive payments for his services as President for the payments to qualify as prohibited ‘emoluments,’ Messitte added. "By every reasonable metric, this appears to describe what is tantamount to a bribe, so above all else the President’s definition of the term ‘emolument’ is exceedingly strained.”
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Linky.
 
smartcooky said:
No, he's not worried at all.

You're forgetting that he is a narcissist. By the very nature of this mental affliction, he is totally incapable of feeling sympathy for anyone other than himself. Narcissists see and admire only their own reflection; no-one else's! They are only ever the victims of injustices, never the perpetrators.

This is why he feels nothing when ordering children to be ripped away (and kept away) from their parents, and locked up in cages.

This is why he regards a few thousand destitute and malnourished men, women and children as an existential threat to the United States (notice how the "caravan" has suddenly disappeared off the reporting of Faux News?)

This is why he expresses criticism of the victims of the California wildfires, blaming them for poor forest management, when the fires actually started in forests that were under Federal management, making it ultimately HIS responsibility.

This is why he travelled to Pittsburgh while the families of the victims of the Or L'Simcha shootings were trying to bury their dead even though he was urged not to do so - because he has no sympathy for the victims - its all about him!

This is why he insults the fallen soldiers of the US, by skipping the commemorations - it was raining and his hair might get wet.

That Der Trumpenführer later tweets what might appear to be regrets about what he has said or done is not any kind of indication that he is feeling anything, let alone remorse. Those tweets will be what he has been TOLD to tweet; coached by his advisors that what he originally said or did makes him look band. He has to be told what makes him look bad because as a narcissist, he is incapable of understanding that for himself.
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This is why when he is in a room of schoolchildren talking about their surviving a school shooting, his handlers have to write “I hear you” on a list of things to say.

Textbook narcissism carried to the Nth degree.
 
Trump Tweets

"Isn’t it ironic that large Caravans of people are marching to our border wanting U.S.A. asylum because they are fearful of being in their country - yet they are proudly waving...."

"....their country’s flag. Can this be possible? Yes, because it is all a BIG CON, and the American taxpayer is paying for it!"
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"Isn’t it ironic that large Caravans of people are marching to our border wanting U.S.A. asylum because they are fearful of being in their country - yet they are proudly waving...."

"....their country’s flag. Can this be possible? Yes, because it is all a BIG CON, and the American taxpayer is paying for it!"
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Now we are paying for the caravan?:rolleyes:
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"Isn’t it ironic that large Caravans of people are marching to our border wanting U.S.A. asylum because they are fearful of being in their country - yet they are proudly waving...."

"....their country’s flag. Can this be possible? Yes, because it is all a BIG CON, and the American taxpayer is paying for it!"
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Looks like he just realized it's been reported he hasn't mentioned said caravan since the midterms.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"People are not being told that the Republican Party is on track to pick up two seats in the U.S. Senate, and epic victory: 53 to 47. The Fake News Media only wants to speak of the House, were the Midterm results were better than other sitting Presidents."
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Who are these people not being told this? He's merely assuming that his attempt at spin - "What a Yuge Victory For Me In Those Easy-to-Win Senate Seats, Eh?" - is what the other side is doing. He hasn't noticed that the Dems picked up almost forty seats, exceeding the rosiest of expectations at Cook and Fivethirtyeight and even my own Pollyannnaish wishes.

It's the other side of the story he refuses to acknowledge. His only mention of the House was his insane speech basking in the losses of TWWEM(Those Who Wouldn't Embrace Me) and his threats to direct the Senate to "investigate you if you investigate me".

2 Senate seats when they were expected to win 3 is "epic". (2% pickup)
38? 35? 40? House seats with a massive swing in popular votes to The Party That Doesn't Embrace Me? That's not epic, in fact it's a non-story. Fake News! An 8% increase, by the way.

Again, though, because I tend to go on and on with Trumptopics... just who are these people who don't know that every vote results headline for two weeks has said, "Dems Win House - GOP Holds Senate"(in lefty MSM press) or "Republican Win Senate - Dems To Have House Majority" on Fox and Real Clear Politics?
 
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