Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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The gist of it is that UK remains in the EU, it needs to follow all the EU rules but without having a seat at the table when making them. British financial industry will no longer have the position it has within the EU and UK can't make new trade deals until both parties agree on a different kind of future relationship, sometime in the future.

I'm not an expert on the matter, but it seems to me the EU got just about everything it could possibly want from UK and UK got shafted in just about every way it could get shafted.

If Theresa May is trying to stop Brexit then she really did go all in with this one.

McHrozni
 
The gist of it is that UK remains in the EU, it needs to follow all the EU rules but without having a seat at the table when making them. British financial industry will no longer have the position it has within the EU and UK can't make new trade deals until both parties agree on a different kind of future relationship, sometime in the future.

I'm not an expert on the matter, but it seems to me the EU got just about everything it could possibly want from UK and UK got shafted in just about every way it could get shafted.

If Theresa May is trying to stop Brexit then she really did go all in with this one.

McHrozni
Where have you downloaded it from, I can't find a working link.
 
The gist of it is that UK remains in the EU, it needs to follow all the EU rules but without having a seat at the table when making them. British financial industry will no longer have the position it has within the EU and UK can't make new trade deals until both parties agree on a different kind of future relationship, sometime in the future.

I'm not an expert on the matter, but it seems to me the EU got just about everything it could possibly want from UK and UK got shafted in just about every way it could get shafted.

If Theresa May is trying to stop Brexit then she really did go all in with this one.

McHrozni

Oh, I agree, but this is entirely an own-goal. The EU has changed no rules or operating criteria. It is sad so few remember the days of getting exchange rates to not be manipulated in a common market, then the snake in the tunnel, then the euro to mitigate that, and the need for common fiscal policies that logically flow from that...

The real problem is that far too many, in far too many places, have swallowed gallons and gallons of the libertarian/wingnut Utopian Freedom Gospel, which takes the kind of "freedom" only anarchy can provide as its ideal, while poo-pooing what it would be like to live in Somalia. If I hear another complaint about "unelected Eurocrats" I think my head will burst from so much childish nonsense.
 
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Donald Tusk's statement:

I took good note of Prime Minister May’s statement yesterday. Of course, I don’t share the Prime Minister’s enthusiasm about Brexit as such. Since the very beginning, we have had no doubt that Brexit is a lose-lose situation, and that our negotiations are only about damage control.

Given these extremely difficult circumstances, I would like to thank Michel Barnier and his team, especially Sabine Weyand and Stéphanie Riso, for doing this exceptionally hard work. Michel, we all put a lot of trust in you, and rightly so. You have achieved our two most important objectives. First, you ensured the limitation of the damage caused by Brexit and, second, you secured the vital interests and principles of the 27 member states, and of the European Union as a whole. If I weren’t confident that you did your best to protect the interests of the twenty‑seven, and I am familiar with the essence of the document, I would not propose to formalise this deal.

In the next days, we will proceed as follows. The agreement is now being analysed by all the member states. By the end of this week, the EU27 ambassadors will meet in order to share their assessment of the agreement. I hope that there will not be too many comments. They will also discuss the mandate for the Commission to finalise the Joint Political Declaration about the future relations between the EU and the UK. The European ministers will be involved in this process. The Commission intends to agree the declaration about the future with the UK by Tuesday. Over the following 48 hours, the member states will have time to evaluate it, which means that the EU27 Sherpas should conclude this work on Thursday. Then, if nothing extraordinary happens, we will hold a European Council meeting, in order to finalise and formalise the Brexit agreement. It will take place on Sunday 25th November at 9:30.

Finally, let me say this to our British friends. As much as I am sad to see you leave, I will do everything to make this farewell the least painful possible, both for you and for us.
 
2 tweets that sum things up
https://twitter.com/GuitarMoog/status/1062986655160774658

The absurd unicorn-chasing of Brexit shown in a single paragraph of @ShaileshVara’s resignation letter.
-Don’t want hard border
But
-Don’t want NI in different relationship with EU to avoid hard border
-Don’t want UK in a relationship with EU that avoids hard border
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https://twitter.com/Tupp_Ed/status/1062480248862900229
Brexit has been 18 months of watching someone trying to haggle on prices with the automatic scanning machine at a Tesco checkout.
 
Is it unique for a government minister to quit in protest at a deal he himself negotiated?

Does tell you a lot about how this deal has been done really doesn't it?

The analogy of arguing with an automated teller seems very apt. Then his mum has come along and told him to just shut up and pay what it says and he's stormed off in a huff.
 
It won't get through Parliament anyway. DUP say they will vote against it and so do Labour.
 
Meanwhile Chief Whip saying "Prime minister won't be bullied and she won't change course"

Also know as putting fingers in ears and saying "La La La"
 
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