Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!"
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Translation:

"Any dissenting voices against me will get a bomb in their mailbox... and deserve it."



Heil Hitler!

 
TofuFighter said:
I think most people feel your frustration with Trump, but it appears from a lot of your posts in this thread that you have abandoned all skeptical/rational positions with regard to him/republicans/his supporters.

This does nothing but a disservice to yourself and to the forum in general.
Will you reconsider what you're doing?
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No. It's good to dehumanize Trump and his supporters. Success in 2020 will largely depend on getting real Americans to see Trump supporters as a distrusted other. Lesser of two evil voters won't vote for a president they don't see as a person and won't want to join a group not seen as fully American. How Trump supporters see immigrants is how real Americans need to see Trump supporters.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!"
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I'm sure he thinks he came up with the term, too.

"Brandon Judd of the National Border Patrol Council is right when he says on
@foxandfriends
that the Democrat inspired laws make it tough for us to stop people at the Border. MUST BE CHANDED, but I am bringing out the military for this National Emergency. They will be stopped!"
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Must stop those regular people!
 
Craig4 said:
No. It's good to dehumanize Trump and his supporters. Success in 2020 will largely depend on getting real Americans to see Trump supporters as a distrusted other. Lesser of two evil voters won't vote for a president they don't see as a person and won't want to join a group not seen as fully American. How Trump supporters see immigrants is how real Americans need to see Trump supporters.
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At times I get mad and agree with you, but then I remember if the Anti Trump people adapt Trump tactics whole sale they will end up being little better then Trump.
Fact is, the ends justify the means often results in the means taking over the ends.
 
dudalb said:
At times I get mad and agree with you, but then I remember if the Anti Trump people adapt Trump tactics whole sale they will end up being little better then Trump.
Fact is, the ends justify the means often results in the means taking over the ends.
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Yep this is why self defense never works. And why the cops really needed to step things up instead of caving at stonewall.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
JFK, RFK, MLK: Assassinated. Any Republicans on that list? Nope.
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Assassinated:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley

Wounded in attempts:
Theodore Roosevelt
Ronald Reagan

Avoided injury in an unsuccessful attempt:
Gerald Ford (Twice)
 
dudalb said:
At times I get mad and agree with you, but then I remember if the Anti Trump people adapt Trump tactics whole sale they will end up being little better then Trump.
Fact is, the ends justify the means often results in the means taking over the ends.
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The most perfect example of that in my mind was Robespierre. He was against capital punishment and yet thought it was necessary at the time to achieve his ideal government of the people. He replaced the the tyranny of the Bourbons with his own reign of terror, the execution of Louis the 16th and Marie Antoinette. But his means justifying the ends approach resulted with Robespierre's own turn at guillotine.
 
dudalb said:
At times I get mad and agree with you, but then I remember if the Anti Trump people adapt Trump tactics whole sale they will end up being little better then Trump.
Fact is, the ends justify the means often results in the means taking over the ends.
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If you're going to fight, win.
 
TomB said:
Assassinated:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley

Wounded in attempts:
Theodore Roosevelt
Ronald Reagan

Avoided injury in an unsuccessful attempt:
Gerald Ford (Twice)
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As was Harry Truman (also twice)

According to Wikipedia there have been 30 Presidentila assasination attempts. Some closer than others.
 
Aridas said:
Mmm. If it actually is false, what are the chances that Trump made up the story himself and purposely "leaked" it as a distraction?
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Interesting. The story originally broke in the Spring and then faded away.
 
acbytesla said:
The most perfect example of that in my mind was Robespierre. He was against capital punishment and yet thought it was necessary at the time to achieve his ideal government of the people. He replaced the the tyranny of the Bourbons with his own reign of terror, the execution of Louis the 16th and Marie Antoinette. But his means justifying the ends approach resulted with Robespierre's own turn at guillotine.
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Using bad Means seem to always end up corrupting the user.
The Irony of the French Revolution is it ended up in a Military Dictatorship.
 
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