London's "No-Go" areas.

[MikeG]

In furtherance of his/ her white supremacist and Islamaphobic agenda, in another thread Baylor is stating as fact that there are no-go zones all over Britain. Finally, s/he has named some of those in London:

If members could use this thread to post videos or photos of these areas, or just a description of what it is like to wander around, maybe Baylor will stop spreading baseless propaganda. The "acid attack" thing is a red herring. Baylor's claim throughout has been that these are zones controlled by Muslims which the police don't enter, or where they have ceded control.

 

[Mojo]

I walked through Islington on Thursday. That bottle, by the way, is pretty close to one of my favourite pubs.

Dave 46 has been there as well: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277773

ETA: to the locality, not necessarily the pub.

 

[Manger Douse]

*Laughs in cockney

 

[Mojo]

And I was in Camden the Thursday before.

Sometime walk to Elephant in my lunch break. Often go to Kentish Town.

 

[Mojo]

This gets the dog again.

 

[Garrison]

Stratford? I go up there once or twice a year for athletics events at the QE stadium or cycling at the velodrome. It's also home to West Ham and the Westfield shopping centre. Someone has a very odd idea of what constitutes a no-go zone.

 

[Belgian thought]

Camden Town and Islington? Baylor has no idea.

As for Elephant and Castle - a huge investment project is running https://www.elephantandcastle.org.uk - again, Baylor has no idea.

Used to go past Shadwell and Canning Town by DLR daily, a lot of people got on there, I presume running away from acid attacks...

 

[ohms]

Here's a Twitter thread from earlier this year on the topic

https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/959095923342217216

 

[Mojo]

Never been to Plaistow, but I’m prepared to bet that Baylor can’t even pronounce it.

 

[Vixen]

The only type of people I meet in Camden are resting luvvies walking their dogs on Hamsptead Heath or Waterlow Park.

Islington is full of trendy ex-Blairites-now-Corbynistas chattering in vegan whole food restaurants.

Dang! Where are all these Muslim acid-throwing gangsters Baylor is ranting on about?

In fact, the mosque in Holloway, is so non-descript, you'd never realise it was one but for the sign on the door.

The only 'no-go' areas are when a staffie meets a rotweiler in Regent's Park. Then it's time to steer clear.

 

[Mojo]

In fact, the mosque in Holloway, is so non-descript, you'd never realise it was one but for the sign on the door.

Obviously a no-go area for police and ambulances: http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/n...al-after-holloway-road-hotel-attack-1-5148416

 

[jimbob]

Here's a Twitter thread fromearlier this year on the topic

https://twitter.com/DanKaszeta/status/959095923342217216

Nice.

And look, there is such strict Sharia law here that there is open sale of pork products ON THE STREET, oh the horror. See the shameful charcuterie, the salacious haram mortadella.

Note the profligate sale of wine in this alleged no go zone. Obviously the Sharia police don't even come once a blue moon. (Yesterday was a blue moon even.)

 

[GlennB]

Parts of Camden Town and Bethnal Green:

 

[MikeG]

Some shots of Kentish Town:

Prince of Wales Rd.

Kentish Town Rd.

Gaisford Rd.

Talacre Rd

Highgate Rd.

It looks just a very ordinary place, with lots of ordinary people going about their ordinary lives. Note all the pedestrians walking around, almost as though there was no trouble there at all.

 

[Mojo]

Some shots of Kentish Town:

...

Highgate Rd.

Another of my favourite pubs!

 

[GlennB]

I don't think Baylor is wilfully lying, and it doesn't feel like trolling. It seems more as if s/he's just parroting a bunch of lies s/he's being fed by some extreme right wing website or similar.

 

[jimbob]

Obviously a no-go area for police and ambulances: http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/n...al-after-holloway-road-hotel-attack-1-5148416

Well according to Baylor's reasoning on the original thread - specifically this post, the police tape does indeed indicate a no-go area.

No go zones are pertinent to this thread. The area circled in red of the satellite image another example of a no-go zone.

No I don't get how that somehow has anything to do with the police being so afraid of Muslims that they're afraid to go there, either.

 

[Trebuchet]

Does anyone in the UK believe this nonsense, or is it just idiot Americans?

 

[uke2se]

I once worked as an LEO in a "no-go area". Of course, it wasn't a no-go area - that's just bigoted propaganda. In Sweden, the police has a list of areas that are labeled as "vulnerable", which means that local police departments get extra resources to get a grip on crime in these areas.

The area I worked in was a place called Kronogården in the smallish town of Trollhättan. There had been a racist murder spree at the local school where a racist clad in a Darth Vader mask and carrying a sword killed a couple of non-white children and school workers just before. The murders had caused an increased rift between the locals and the police because the locals believed the police reacted too slowly to the situation in the school, thus letting their children die. There were conspiracy theories spreading about how the murderer (who was shot by police) wasn't really dead and was being protected by the cops.

The area was a drug selling hub, and the primary location for drug trade was in a run down community center just next to the school. The center contained a closed down library, two stores run by locals and the offices for the local land lord. That's where me and a colleague were supposed to be to "uphold order".

It became apparent that the drug sellers, and the likely perpetrators of most crime in the area, were a small gang of teenagers. They stood with us and we chatted until one of their customers came around. Then they excused themselves and slunk off, leaving their mates to keep an eye on us. Every once in a while some older brother of one of the kids came around and checked on them. It was kind of obvious that the drug selling had been passed down through the generations, the older brothers probably being a bit higher in the pecking order.

We arrested nobody for any offenses during our stay there. We didn't see any drug selling, although we were very much aware of it happening all around us. Police weren't interested in the drug trade at that moment, as the bigger problem was getting tempers calmed in the community. Our presence there was pretty much pointless.

Kind of a pointless story, but it does show that so called "no-go areas" are anything but.

 

[MikeG]

Does anyone in the UK believe this nonsense, or is it just idiot Americans?

It really is just some idiot Americans, as far as I can tell. Including your president. Brits know there is no such thing. Obviously there are some dodgy areas where wandering around by yourself at night wouldn't be sensible, but that's not what we're talking about here.