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Lessons to be learned from the Kavanaugh Hearing

Fixed. I'm all for legal protesting. You lose me when you break the law and impede others civil rights. The moderates on the left need to speak out against this crap before its too late and there is reciprocation from the right extremists. I predict only then will liberals speak out.

Antifa IS the reciprocation against the right extremists. Nazi-ism IS the imminent threat. They kill, and endorse more killing. They, as you say, want to impede the rights of others. You can't reframe this as antifa initiating conflict. They ARE the response.
 
Lies. Antifa beat anyone that supports Trump or GOP. Are you suggesting all of those people are "white supremacists"?

Nope. And antifa doesn't. Look at their websites, twitter and FB, etc. Nazis are the target. That the GOP is disproportionately filled with white supremacists and neo-nazis is something that Republicans might think about denouncing.
 
You call something a lie, then make a blanket statement?

Antifa IS the reciprocation against the right extremists. Nazi-ism IS the imminent threat. They kill, and endorse more killing. They, as you say, want to impede the rights of others. You can't reframe this as antifa initiating conflict. They ARE the response.

Nope. And antifa doesn't. Look at their websites, twitter and FB, etc. Nazis are the target. That the GOP is disproportionately filled with white supremacists and neo-nazis is something that Republicans might think about denouncing.

Have you ever been anywhere near Antifa mobs wearing a Trump hat? Do you want to see what happens? (try youtube)

The blind leading the blind... either the left is completely oblivious, or complicit. Make your choice.
 
Fixed. I'm all for legal protesting. You lose me when you break the law and impede others civil rights. The moderates on the left need to speak out against this crap before its too late and there is reciprocation from the right extremists. I predict only then will liberals speak out.

Crossing a legally marked intersection while one has the walk symbol is legal. You are endorsing running them over. You are endorsing breaking the law and impeding others civil rights.
 
Crossing a legally marked intersection while one has the walk symbol is legal. You are endorsing running them over. You are endorsing breaking the law and impeding others civil rights.

These people were crossing? Or Blocking the road? Are they vandalizing and harassing? Are they attempting to impede others path purposely? Can you say the same of the person just trying to escape the leftist mob?

Blind...



When people start dying, keep wondering why it happens and insisting they were "crossing".

Dude in the car has a green light btw also. Hes not trying to run anyone down, hes trying to escape a mob.

Wait until its the liberals in the car, and the right wing extremists blocking the damn roads. I bet you'll feel a little differently.
 
Nope. And antifa doesn't. Look at their websites, twitter and FB, etc. Nazis are the target. That the GOP is disproportionately filled with white supremacists and neo-nazis is something that Republicans might think about denouncing.

This is nonsense and we have nothing to do with anyone who is stupid enough to identify as a Nazi or white supremacists. They can vote for whoever they want just like the cowardly BLM and Antifa, but that doesn't mean they are part of us. BLM and Antifa, however, are full fledged members of the Democrat Party.
 
These people were crossing? Or Blocking the road? Are they vandalizing and harassing? Are they attempting to impede others path purposely? Can you say the same of the person just trying to escape the leftist mob?

Blind...



When people start dying, keep wondering why it happens and insisting they were "crossing".

Dude in the car has a green light btw also. Hes not trying to run anyone down, hes trying to escape a mob.

Wait until its the liberals in the car, and the right wing extremists blocking the damn roads. I bet you'll feel a little differently.

Was the walk symbol lit? Then those pedestrians legally had the right to be in the road, green light or no. Honestly, I am not aware of any state that allows a driver to intentionally hit pedestrians, even if they were illegally in the road which they were not. Again, you are endorsing illegal and violent actions, while projecting your desires on others.
 
I'm with you, all women that want to be (and can legally do so) should absolutely carry concealed. My girlfriend does.

That doesn't give people the right to block roads and intimidate folks, or stop them from going about their way in the name of "protest". Keep it legal and on the sidewalk.

I stopped traffic just yesterday illegally, but guess what? I didn't insist or block anyone. I asked with hand signals, in order to help a lady cross the road that was in a wheel chair. Everyone seemed ok with taking a couple seconds for that. Being blocked by protesters... not so much.

Stay classy.

I just home from rescuing a bunch of orphans and puppies from a house fire, and I thought I’d just stop in to laugh at one of the most hilariously self-serving posts I’ve ever read on this forum.
 
Have you ever been anywhere near Antifa mobs wearing a Trump hat? Do you want to see what happens? (try youtube)

Yes, a MAGA hat is becoming a symbol of nazi-ism-lite. Fortunately, the only place you will find an antifa 'mob' is at a white supremacist gathering. That's kind of the hitch.

The blind leading the blind... either the left is completely oblivious, or complicit. Make your choice.

The 'left' is irrelevant. Antifa is primarily made up of apolitical anarchists. They dislike corporations as much as nazis.

Repeating the lie that antifa is pushing the 'lefts' agenda does not make it true.
 
This is nonsense and we have nothing to do with anyone who is stupid enough to identify as a Nazi or white supremacists.

Better take a good long look at your membership roster then.

They can vote for whoever they want just like the cowardly BLM and Antifa, but that doesn't mean they are part of us. BLM and Antifa, however, are full fledged members of the Democrat Party.

Nope. Most strongly dislike Democrats, too. Modern anarchists hate power factions, of any political leaning. Antifa hates neo-nazis much more because of the imminent threats and violence they carry with them.
 
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Was the walk symbol lit? Then those pedestrians legally had the right to be in the road, green light or no. Honestly, I am not aware of any state that allows a driver to intentionally hit pedestrians, even if they were illegally in the road which they were not. Again, you are endorsing illegal and violent actions, while projecting your desires on others.

You think the elderly man was intentionally running down the poor "protesters"? You are part of the problem. Don't worry, not everyone feels like you. This mob was intimidating people blocking the road. Mob mentality, highly illegal and if you don't think someone has a right to escape that? I am starting to feel like maybe its a good thing antifa is out there doing this. Because eventually the extreme right will do the same thing. Then, you and others here will be preaching a different sermon all together. Imagine that being neo nazi people (actual ones, not people wearing a trump hat!) and actual KKK members stopping cars and blocking roads, beating people and cars of anyone they deem to be "not like them"

Ridiculous... and dangerous. I'll protect myself and my family "by any means necessary" and I truly mean that.

I just home from rescuing a bunch of orphans and puppies from a house fire, and I thought I’d just stop in to laugh at one of the most hilariously self-serving posts I’ve ever read on this forum.

Yes, pointing out illegally blocking traffic in order to help someone is cool. Blocking it to "protest" and beat people is not.

Yes, a MAGA hat is becoming a symbol of nazi-ism-lite. Fortunately, the only place you will find an antifa 'mob' is at a white supremacist gathering. That's kind of the hitch.



The 'left' is irrelevant. Antifa is primarily made up of apolitical anarchists. They dislike corporations as much as nazis.

Repeating the lie that antifa is pushing the 'lefts' agenda does not make it true.


That's a huge fail from "the left" and media outlets. Demonizing the opposition party and grouping everyone into some type of slur... is ignorant and dangerous. The lefties here seem to be blind to the fact that they cannot keep poking the hornets nest, without getting stung. I'm asking all of the moderates on the left to speak out against this type of rhetoric before it's too late. (if its not already)
 
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This is nonsense and we have nothing to do with anyone who is stupid enough to identify as a Nazi or white supremacists. They can vote for whoever they want just like the cowardly BLM and Antifa, but that doesn't mean they are part of us. BLM and Antifa, however, are full fledged members of the Democrat Party.

Here are actual Nazis and white supremacists running for office as Republicans:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...-republicans-illinois-north-carolina-virginia

Here are some charming fellows you might have rubbed elbows with at a Trump rally:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...alists-support-donald-trump/story?id=37524610

And of course, there’s all the times that Trump gave shout-outs to his fanbase on social media:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/01/donald-trump-mostly-retweets-white-supremacists.html

Nope, no connection there between the Nazis, white supremacists and Republicans.

But keep pushing your conspiracy theory that Antifa is directly tied to Democrats, while offering zero corroboration, BrooklynBaby.

It’s what you do best.
 
You think the elderly man was intentionally running down the poor "protesters"? You are part of the problem. Don't worry, not everyone feels like you.
Oh, I know not everyone thinks like me. For instance, some people love to post about how heroic it is to illegally drive a car into people, while I disagree.
This mob was intimidating people blocking the road. Mob mentality, highly illegal and if you don't think someone has a right to escape that? I am starting to feel like maybe its a good thing antifa is out there doing this. Because eventually the extreme right will do the same thing. Then, you and others here will be preaching a different sermon all together. Imagine that being neo nazi people (actual ones, not people wearing a trump hat!) and actual KKK members stopping cars and blocking roads, beating people and cars of anyone they deem to be "not like them"

Ridiculous... and dangerous. I'll protect myself and my family "by any means necessary" and I truly mean that.

I do notice how many conservatives get very intimidated by non threatening things. I guess that's another way not everyone thinks like me. [conservative]People crossing the road during a walk sign??!?!? I must escape (and if I run down any of them by any means necessary, more's the better!)![/conservative]
 
Yes, pointing out illegally blocking traffic in order to help someone is cool. Blocking it to "protest" and beat people is not.

Or... legally being in a crosswalk while exercising your First Amendment rights is cool. Illegally blocking traffic to help a fugitive Nazi war criminal cross the street to deface a synagogue is not.

Since we're creating fictions to support our agenda, might as well have some fun with it.
 
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Or... legally being in a crosswalk while exercising your First Amendment rights is cool. Illegally blocking traffic to help a fugitive Nazi war criminal cross the street to deface a synagogue is not.

Since we're creating fictions to support our agenda, might as well have some fun with it.

My bold. Wrong.

2017 ORS 811.550¹
Places where stopping, standing and parking prohibited:


(5) Within an intersection. Exemptions under ORS 811.560 (Exemptions from prohibitions on stopping, standing or parking) (4) to (7) are applicable to this subsection.

(6) On a crosswalk. Exemptions under ORS 811.560 (Exemptions from prohibitions on stopping, standing or parking) (4) to (7) are applicable to this subsection.
 
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But since you're so interested in meaningful discourse, River, I 'll just leave this here for you:
Hey, does everyone remember when conservatives thought armed insurrection was cool?

And now all of a sudden they're worried about proper compliance with jay-walking laws.

My, how times have changed.


And maybe you can explain at what point between advocating for violent revolt and now that conservatives remembered that they respected law and order.
 
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