Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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thaiboxerken said:
It's possible. However, he will uncover many other crimes Trump has committed.
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BrooklynBaby brings up a salient point. If Mueller comes up with diddly in respect to the collusion claims, Trump's hoaxy-hoax bleatings will be vindicated. Many also buy into his climate change hoax nonsense, as well as his latest hoax claims regarding the Kavanaugh accusers. Christ, 40+ percent already buy into whatever crap Trump ***** out; if the democrats don't find a win, and soon, I fear the blue wave they imagine is only a product of their imaginations.
 
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BrooklynBaby brings up a salient point. If Mueller comes up with diddly in respect to the collusion claims, Trump's hoaxy-hoax bleatings will be vindicated. Many also buy into his climate change hoax nonsense, as well as his latest hoax claims regarding the Kavanaugh accusers. Christ, 40+ percent already buy into whatever crap Trump ***** out; if the democrats don't find a win, and soon, I fear the blue wave they imagine is only a product of their imaginations.
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Had BB worded his post a little different he wouldn't have received a gify. It isn't a hoax because it has already netted some top people. What the Strumpets think... eh. And, yeah, I'm not sure of the whole "blue wave" thing (at least, not yet).
 
River said:
The point I'm trying to make is: Nothing you linked ties this to Trump personally. Also according to your linked article Kushner and Jr lied? They may have. Does this mean something illegal happened at the meeting? (evidence is required of that crime, or evidence that a crime will be commited to reach the "probably cause" threshold) The file I linked details some of the information concerning the "dirt" on clinton and how that meeting came to be.
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I thought they were investigating the Trump Campaign? not Trump himself - on his own.

Since it was the Trump Campaign, then Trump may or may not be involved. I guess the investigation intends to find out if there was any Russian collusion, who knew about it, who ordered it etc. If Trump ends up in there somewhere then at best he is an idiot (which we all know already), at worst he is some kind of traitor to the USA and more so for what it stands for.

I see him lying again today. Apologizing to the new Judge for all the lies. First, why is he apologizing for the liars? how does he know they are lying? He is such a twot.
 
Elagabalus said:
Had BB worded his post a little different he wouldn't have received a gify. It isn't a hoax because it has already netted some top people. What the Strumpets think... eh. And, yeah, I'm not sure of the whole "blue wave" thing (at least, not yet).
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The dems do not have a bully pulpit, or if they do, they ain't using it. Trump keeps repeating his bull **** stories, and you know what they say about a lie repeated often enough . . .

With all the gaffes, lies and sewage this president spews on a daily basis, one would think that there would be a lot more turmoil, anger, and protest, but I just don't see it. I have no advice for the democrats other than what they're hanging their hats on now doesn't seem to be working. I'd like to be mistaken, but see no reason to think otherwise.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Prediction - Mueller's results will be Trump's involvement in anything with Russia was indeed a hoax, just like Trump has said all along.
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I hope not cause they need to impeach his ass for all the other dumb stuff he has done and keeps on doing.

I don't know why we get so uptight about Trump supporters. They should just be subjected to laughter because they support such a dumb feckwhit who cannot even present a coherent speech or presentation. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lets just consider for a moment if all Democrats disappeared and left only Trump supporters. I'd give it 2 weeks before he started accusing even his supporters of fake news and lying and begin to imprison people. Chaos would ensue promptly.
 
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It is telling that Trump won't let himself get interviewed by Mueller - and that his supporters are fine with this while at the same time claiming that Trump is completely innocent.
In any other case, refusal to cooperate would be interpreted as a clear sign of guilt.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
It is telling that Trump won't let himself get interviewed by Mueller - and that his supporters are fine with this while at the same time claiming that Trump is completely innocent.
In any other case, refusal to cooperate would be interpreted as a clear sign of guilt.
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They also think the FBI are just a bunch of libruls out to get Trump..........but did a dang fine job of "investigating" Bart Kavanaugh.
 
thaiboxerken said:
They also think the FBI are just a bunch of libruls out to get Trump..........but did a dang fine job of "investigating" Bart Kavanaugh.
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Yeah, weird how that works...

Soros must be furious, he sure didn't get his money's worth there.
 
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Resume said:
The dems do not have a bully pulpit, or if they do, they ain't using it. Trump keeps repeating his bull **** stories, and you know what they say about a lie repeated often enough . . .

With all the gaffes, lies and sewage this president spews on a daily basis, one would think that there would be a lot more turmoil, anger, and protest, but I just don't see it. I have no advice for the democrats other than what they're hanging their hats on now doesn't seem to be working. I'd like to be mistaken, but see no reason to think otherwise.
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In Chicago it seems they are nearly constantly protesting at Trump Tower.:confused:
 
Lambchops said:
Yeah, weird how that works...

Soros must be furious, he sure didn't get his money's worth there.
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That's why he's not paying :)

TheRealDonaldTrump said:
The paid D.C. protesters are now ready to REALLY protest because they haven’t gotten their checks - in other words, they weren’t paid! Screamers in Congress, and outside, were far too obvious - less professional than anticipated by those paying (or not paying) the bills!
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Yep that's how it works. The Democrats run Republicans out of restaurants while the Republicans run Democrats out of office.

Democrats creamed themselves and wouldn't stop high fiving each other because "Nevertheless She Persisted" got turned into some trending feminist hashtag but the appointment of Jeff Sessions to Attorney General, ya know the thing Elizabeth Warren was "nevertheless persisting".... still happened.

Democrats can't stop winning moral victories and Republicans can't stop winning political victories.

Who do you think is coming out ahead in that game?

Protest all you want. March all you want. Get all the trending hashtags you can. The Republicans know better than the Democrats how little that all matters.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yep that's how it works. The Democrats run Republicans out of restaurants while the Republicans run Democrats out of office.

Democrats creamed themselves and wouldn't stop high fiving each other because "Nevertheless She Persisted" got turned into some trending feminist hashtag but the appointment of Jeff Sessions to Attorney General, ya know the thing Elizabeth Warren was "nevertheless persisting".... still happened.

Democrats can't stop winning moral victories and Republicans can't stop winning political victories.

Who do you think is coming out ahead in that game?

Protest all you want. March all you want. Get all the trending hashtags you can. The Republicans know better than the Democrats how little that all matters.
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That's all very gloomy, but what's your solution, aside from voting?
 
theprestige said:
It hasn't, though. I mean, "top people" is at least arguable, sure. So I'll give you that. But so far, nobody in the administration had been netted for interfering in the 2016 election.
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No one here is claiming otherwise.

But several campaign and administration officials have been indicted or pleaded guilty as a direct result of the investigation. These cases came about as a result of the investigation, and are explicitly part of Mueller's mandate.

Please stop pretending people here are arguing that the indictments, etc., are directly about Russian interference. If not a single American is ever indicted because of Russian interference, that does not mean the investigation failed or that the indictments handed down are in any sense illegitimate.

In short, drop the straw man. It's tiresome.
 
Belz... said:
That's all very gloomy, but what's your solution, aside from voting?
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Well... voting.

The "Aside from voting" modifier is odd to me. It's like asking "Aside from eating how are we supposed to combat our hunger?"

Street level passion has never once lead to higher voter turnout. Voter turnout didn't increase significantly in the 60s and that generation still can't stop talking about how much they marched and protested and changed the world to this day. This "Blue Wave" isn't gonna happen.

It seems like people are willing to do everything; from the most useless slactivism to the most violent uprising to effect change... everything except for the system already built to effect it.
 
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Belz... said:
Except that gerrymandering and other vote suppression methods have reduced the efficacy of voting, for Democratic voters.
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Well yeah because the Democrats lost over 900 state legislature seats in the last decade or so. That's allowed the Republicans to draw all these lines in the sand.

I'm tired of listening to the Democrats listing all this perfectly valid, perfectly reasonable, perfectly true reasons they keep losing.

I want the country to win for once, not lose but it "not be our fault because the other side isn't playing fair."
 
JoeMorgue said:
Well yeah because the Democrats lost over 900 state legislature seats in the last decade or so. That's allowed the Republicans to draw all these lines in the sand.

I'm tired of listening to the Democrats listing all this perfectly valid, perfectly reasonable, perfectly true reasons they keep losing.

I want the country to win for once, not lose but it "not be our fault because the other side isn't playing fair."
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Well my point is that if this keeps up, you might need to do more than vote in order to win.
 
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