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Hitler? (who was a socialist?)
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Please stop getting information from Stormfrontesque sources. You are embarrassing yourself.

Reddit askhistorians has trashed this claim so many times they made it an entry in their FAQ.

Bismark was more socialist than Hitler for crying out loud.
 
Hitler was not a socialist. Just no. That's like thinking North Korea is a democracy because they call themselves a Democratic Republic. Don't even try.


Most decent people are pretty upset and scared for good reasons right now, yes. But sure, you can handwave this as "durr hurr sore losers" if you so desire.

Right so you missed the point of the question mark. Hitler claimed to be socialist. Many many times in speeches, but we know he was a nationalist. Correct?

Just like people (liberals generally speaking) compare Trump to Hitler. It's about the same as claiming Hitler to be socialist, because he said so. What do you see as Trump and Hitlers common political views as?
 
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Please stop getting information from Stormfrontesque sources. You are embarrassing yourself.

Reddit askhistorians has trashed this claim so many times they made it an entry in their FAQ.

Bismark was more socialist than Hitler for crying out loud.

Terrible comparisons btw, and the question mark after who was a socialist? was there for a reason.
 
Terrible comparisons btw, and the question mark after who was a socialist? was there for a reason.

Yes, we know you just wanted to get that out there, not have to support the lie. Hence your feigned ignorance.
 
. It's about the same as claiming Hitler to be socialist, because he said so. What do you see as Trump and Hitlers common political views as?

The authoritarianism, the scapegoating of minorities, the rampant cronyism....
 
Examples of each for Hitlers and then compare to Trump please?

For Hitler, please pick up a book.

For Trump, seriously, have you not been paying attention to the man, ever? Have you even read the various parts of this thread?
 
Please do tell. Go on...

What do you perceive is the problem or is relevant to Hitler? (who was a socialist?)

To me this looks more like: liberal tears. They didn't get their way and the policies they support aren't first in line. Comparing Trump to Hitler is beyond insulting. You should be ashamed.

After the very fine people comment it's a fair comparison. Besides if it energizes part of the base and it's done properly, who cares if it's fair? If it hurts Trump it's good for United States.
 
Really?

Or do you mean that the Onion is Daily Mash like. As I'm in the UK.

As if satire and real life can be distinguished at all now-a-days??

At least the sites such as The Daily Mash and The Onion write articles that are meant to be humorous distortions of real life. They are meant to be read as sly satire and they are not intentionally trying to mislead their readers; however having readers take these things seriously is inevitable as an article is picked up and propagated by others. Plus real life is so distorted in the Trump era that it is very difficult to come up with a fictional scenario that outdistances the actual events, making even the most outrageous satire more plausible.

Unfortunately on top of this is a proliferation of web sites that purposefully create outright lies that are intended to mislead and manipulate their readers for outright political goals. Their overt purpose is not only that people reading their site will absorb the lies as truth, but even more so that the lies will then be propagated as facts through social media to a much wider audience. And it can be amazingly successful; once established in someone's brain it is virtually impossible to argue them out of these lies, no matter how absurd, using logic. I have a nephew on Facebook... well never mind...

These latter sites often try to legally protect themselves by noting in 5 point type in some obscure corner of their webpages that their stories are for only satirical purposes, but the design, feel, and political partisanship of the sites makes this virtually impossible to believe. Just as an example, a significant number of stories and pictures that personally attacked Dr. Ford credibility by presenting completely made-up photos, historical facts, quotes, etc. originated on these types of sites. Snopes lists and clarifies a few (e.g. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brett-kavanaugh-foreclosure-accuser-parents/).
 
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These latter sites often try to legally protect themselves by noting in 5 point type in some obscure corner of their webpages that their stories are for only satirical purposes, but the design, feel, and political partisanship of the sites makes this virtually impossible to believe.
Also, the people who see them mass-shared on Facebook are likely to just believe them, and often won't even bother opening the page. I know from Facebook experience how bad trolls are at actually reading articles before commenting on them. It's like reading anything more than the headline would exhaust them or something.
 
The authoritarianism, the scapegoating of minorities, the rampant cronyism....

Add “Lying Press” (Lügenpresse) morphing into “Fake News”, with exactly the same motivation.

Trump is not Hitler. But it’s fair to point out similarities, of which there are more than a few.

Mussolini also comes into play, especially the mannerisms when exhorting crowds.
 
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The "X is just like Hitler" card gets thrown around a lot, but for once we actually have a politician who fits the bill.

None of us think Trump will start another Holocaust or world war, of course, though I guess many are less certain about the last one, but the similarities are there, and the way he deliberately chips away at democracy, trust in journalism, and American alliances and agreements is deeply concerning. He's not just a bad leader, he is doing actual, lasting damage.

Not to get into the incentifying of violence and other offenses, which are all handwaved by the Trump sect because anything is a-OK when He does it.

Said Trumpkins are the same who gnash their teeth and whine about liberals/Democrats harrassing Trump's officials, but who ever heard of a morally consistent Trumpkin.
 
Trump's core followers are exactly like Hitler's core followers. People who feel modernity/progress are leaving them behind and blame it on some conspiracy by others to undermine society. Hitler blamed it on Bolshevik Jews and Trump blames it all on Liberals.
 
Trump's and his cult calling protesters mobs is just a precursor to the next step. They will legislate to criminalize protests with it if they still have the power after November.

The ICE camps are holding immigrants, legal and illegal, for now. It won't be long until they start tossing other people in there, like US citizens that don't look "american" and libruls.
 
Trump's and his cult calling protesters mobs is just a precursor to the next step. They will legislate to criminalize protests with it if they still have the power after November.

The ICE camps are holding immigrants, legal and illegal, for now. It won't be long until they start tossing other people in there, like US citizens that don't look "american" and libruls.

How do you feel about the liberal mobs going around harassing Senators and Reps? How do you feel about Maxine Waters telling her followers this:

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up,” she said at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday. “And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”


Do conservatives do this? Mobs harassing "liberal" Senators? Antifa punching "nazis" <<< anyone that is a conservative will do for that label. Shutting down conservative events, because different think is bad.

Who are the real fascists? Don't worry, we already know.
 
Right so you missed the point of the question mark. Hitler claimed to be socialist. Many many times in speeches, but we know he was a nationalist. Correct?

Just like people (liberals generally speaking) compare Trump to Hitler. It's about the same as claiming Hitler to be socialist, because he said so. What do you see as Trump and Hitlers common political views as?
oh dear lord. Just because they have the same words doesn't make them the same thing.

National Socialism most often refers to Nazism, the ideology of the Nazi Party (National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP) which existed in Germany between 1920 and 1945 and ruled the country from 1933 to 1945. The term "National Socialism" was used by a number of unrelated groups before the Nazis, but since their rise to prominence it has become associated almost exclusively with their ideas..

Nazism is a form of fascism and showed that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, but also incorporated fervent antisemitism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed.

Socialism
Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.

In England the phrases: "Oh Bollocks" and "The Dogs Bollocks" mean completely different things - despite the common Bollocks.
 
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