New SCOTUS Judge II: The Wrath of Kavanaugh

kellyb said:
I'm not sure it was genuinely paranoid, but rather basic dishonest rightwing messaging, at this point.
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exactly.
He was channeling Trump 1:1.
I think all his outrage was fake, an attempt to use Trump tactics to avoid having to admit to anything.
 
The Big Dog said:
I guess the secret to holding hearings for the snowflake crowd is to come up and have two protesters scream at you.
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For anybody interested, this is what The Big Dog is describing as "screaming":



And he feels fit to call other people "snowflakes".
 
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kellyb said:
I'd say his particular brand of "lying conspiracy theorist" is actually just a manifestation of his partisan hackery.
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*Looks at the president*

Maybe that's just what the GOP is composed of now?
 
River said:
Here is my assessment of the whole thing. Do I think he was being completely honest? Most likely not. Do I think he assaulted that woman? Most likely not.
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Based on what? In a he said/she said, why do you find him more credible? We have some alleged corroborating evidence in the form of sexual assaults claimed by two other women, other peers acknowledging that he did a bit of binge drinking back in the day, yearbook memberships and entries suggesting disturbing misogynistic attitudes, e.g., "t & c" at Yale.

Is there a similar weight of evidence suggesting that each of his three accusers are the type of people who would fabricate harrowing stories of sexual assault to ruin the careers of people they don't like? Any academy awards won by these women? Any George Soros DNA on the piles of money they've packed into their suitcases?

River said:
I think Mrs Ford has had a traumatic experience.
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Pro tip: If you've got another thread in which you're claiming to be a purist regarding how feminism should or should not be advanced, it's a good idea to recognize the achievements of women and be sure to use any honorifics they might have earned. Thousands of women in STEM – including Dr. Ford – will appreciate this little gesture on your part that is so often denied them relative to their male counterparts.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
You're comparing sexual assault allegations against a supreme court nominee to a conspiracy theory on Twitter.
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The main difference being Pizzagate occurred on twitter and infowars, this is occurring on Capitol Hill and throughout the MSM.
 
smartcooky said:
And how do you avoid getting caught in a perjury trap? By telling the truth, that's how!!

If he had admitted to being a heavy drinker, perhaps even an alcohol abuser at school, but pointed to the fact that it did not affect his academic achievements or grades, and that was simply part of his teenage years, and that he has left those years and that behaviour behind, he would have garnered a lot of respect all around. Instead, he chose to claim choir boy status, and became aggressive and belligerent with anyone who claimed it wasn't so. If what we saw is the way he behaves when stone cold sober, I fear to think what he would be like with a few beers under his belt.
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YES!


The Republicans defending him in this thread don't get it. The rest of us are going to hate whoever the Republicans will nominate, but not like this. I expect the next Justice to have a right wing ideology. That's going to be a given. But he doesn't have to be a party boot licker.

Kavanaugh is like Bork was in that he's a team player. Instead of having principles like Richardson and Ruckleshaus, Bork, the partisan hack fired Cox. The aftermath of course was the partisan Bork was nominated by Reagan, but the Senate did not approve.

Every indication Kavanaugh has given is that he will do Trump's bidding instead of following the law.
 
The dishonesty of our resident right wingers is almost as disgusting to see as the dishonesty of their elected officials in the senate. There is literally nothing they would not do to try to gaslight everyone else. I don't even understand why any rational person is still engaging these specimen.
 
uke2se said:
The dishonesty of our resident right wingers is almost as disgusting to see as the dishonesty of their elected officials in the senate. There is literally nothing they would not do to try to gaslight everyone else. I don't even understand why any rational person is still engaging these specimen.
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In other words, they're behaving just as you expected them to. Imagine that.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
I think incidents like this are when we find out who the actual skeptics and critical thinkers are. And it's not looking good.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!


I doubt you understand what either is. And out of curiosity, what and who should we be skeptical of? The very believable story of Dr Ford, or the belligerent stonewalling nominee who lied before the Senate?

Hmmmm.
 
I'm actually starting to get why the Trumpists are so ******* desperate to push Kav through that they are willing to lie and distort and generally act like entitled pricks:

This is what it was all about. This was the promised SCOTUS advantage that made them into what they are today, that made them dismiss all values and ethics that they previously held sacred. Without this, they will have destroyed the credibility of the GOP and any perceived moral high ground for no benefit.
 
acbytesla said:
I doubt you understand what either is. And out of curiosity, what and who should we be skeptical of? The very believable story of Dr Ford, or the belligerent stonewalling nominee who lied before the Senate?
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You've failed horribly already, including your proposal of this silly false dilemma.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've failed horribly already, including your proposal of this silly false dilemma.
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I believe PJ and Leland.

Interesting that our correspondents are claiming that people are trying to push it through, when Trump yesterday asked the FBI to get involved.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've failed horribly already, including your proposal of this silly false dilemma.
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How did I fail?

That was my impression of the testimonies.

Now it doesn't prove that Kavanaugh did this. But that also wasn't a criminal courtroom either. We're not locking him up with Bill Cosby.

The standard isn't beyond a reasonable doubt or even a preponderance of doubt. The issue from my perspective is Kavanaugh beyond reproach? As I think a Supreme Court Justice should be.

I DON'T believe someone seeking a lifetime appointment to a position that requires total honesty and impartiality should be given the benefit of doubt. The FBI should climb up his ass and be able to tell us what he had for breakfast. If there are too many questions, then I believe we are obligated to look at someone else.
 
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