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Why was he so non-answering about letting the FBI do an investigation of those charges?

If I was 100% totally innocent, I'd be *wanting* my name cleared. His non-answering evasiveness on that point is bizarre to me.

It doesn't seem bizarre to me. He has a lot of skeletons in his closets. He doesn't want people poking around. It isn't necessarily because Ford's or Ramirez' charges are true (although they could be). He just might have something either criminal or just embarrassing that he's afraid will turn up.
 
I would be entirely happy to prohibit anyone who ever went to a private prep school or an ivy league college from holding any government position whatsoever. Especially if they went to Yale.

Totally with you on that!

Nothing about these people is normal, and it ain't in a "better than us" sort of way.

Yale does seem to be the worst.
 
To be fair, he was lying about things that don't matter, like whether or not he blacked out....

This does matter, because it negates his claim to know that he did not do these things. By definition if you are blackout drunk you don't know what you did or did not do.
 
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.... To be fair, he was lying about things that don't matter, like whether or not he blacked out, but it just gives me a really low opinion of him personally, and makes me question whether he can judge impartially, as he so piously claims he can.
That's one way to dismiss it. Another way to look at it, he lied he had a drinking problem in the past, he condemned Judge for having sank into alcoholism and recovered. So where's the truth here? Does he not recognize how obnoxious his drinking in high school and college was? Was he lying about it? Does he still have a drinking problem and he's in denial?

Why do you think none of that matters?

Any one of those scenarios looks really bad on a job application.
 
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It doesn't seem bizarre to me. He has a lot of skeletons in his closets. He doesn't want people poking around. It isn't necessarily because Ford's or Ramirez' charges are true (although they could be). He just might have something either criminal or just embarrassing that he's afraid will turn up.

What could be more criminal than the drugged punch rape gangbang charge he's currently facing living with in the eyes of the public for the rest of his life?

Also, is there a chance he's really just a lower caliber ethically person than the normal SC judges?
 
With any luck, Judge Rapist will try to have a quiet evening out in DC this weekend. Once they learn that will never happen again, in his lifetime appointment, he and his wife will see reason and decide he needs to withdraw.
 
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Very early, Kavanaugh could have gotten in front of all of this, admitting to being a party boy in Highschool and beyond.
And then apologize.
Not necessarily admit to attacking Ford, but agreeing that sometimes he was so drunk that he might have done things he would normally never do and not being able to remember them because of blacking out.
He could then point at decades of moderate drinking and proper behavior etc. etc. and agree to help any investigation into past mistakes.
That would have been something Republicans could sell their female voters.

But Kavanaugh ticked every box of being an entitled fratboy who thinks he can drink to excess and do what he wants, and lie about it afterwards with no consequence: he has not shown any sense of wrongdoing whatsoever.

I don't doubt that Republicans will confirm him, but it will cost them in the Midterms and 2020.
Exactly this. Lying about it makes it much worse and relevant while something from 30 years ago could easily have been forgiven.
 
It doesn't seem bizarre to me. He has a lot of skeletons in his closets. He doesn't want people poking around. It isn't necessarily because Ford's or Ramirez' charges are true (although they could be). He just might have something either criminal or just embarrassing that he's afraid will turn up.

Really, Mead, wtf, man?

Do you think you would have this much trouble passing this sort of clearance? Honest question.
 
Kavanaugh was clearly playing to an audience of one: Trump.
Trump, more than anyone, can make things worse for Republicans in the Midterms by making fun of them caving in to a Clinton conspiracy to torpedo Kavanaugh.
So unless Trump drops Kavanaugh, Republicans can't without risking being lambasted by their own President as being weak.
 
It doesn't seem bizarre to me. He has a lot of skeletons in his closets. He doesn't want people poking around. It isn't necessarily because Ford's or Ramirez' charges are true (although they could be). He just might have something either criminal or just embarrassing that he's afraid will turn up.

And *that's precisely* why he shouldn't be confirmed. It's a job interview, not a trial. If you interviewed a babysitter who even gave you the slightest doubt about their trustworthiness, you'd be entirely within your rights to not hire.

Same here. A SCOTUS judge must be as clean as Caesar's wife (or something like that ;) ).

But I'm completely not surprised by today's outcome, if you can call it that. Same partisan division coming out that was present going in. Because of the POTUS/Senate/Kavanaugh refusal to bring in the FBI. All to ensure it came down to nothing more than a he said/she said divide that gives cover to proceed on the rushed confirmation.

Unless some brave soul or two comes forward to slow this down so as to get the FBI on board, or to kill the nomination, this whole **** show will go down in history as a most ignominious moment in US political history. In any event, it'll be a mile marker in the descent into the hell of extreme partisanship.

Graham's tirade surprised me. It seems that the Trump taint has infected him awful bad since McCain's passing. Must be angling for AG, knowing his new orange master and overlord was watching the proceedings.
 
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With any luck, Judge Rapist will try to have a quiet evening out in DC this weekend. Once they learn that will never happen again, in his lifetime appointment, he and his wife will see reason and decide he needs to withdraw.


"I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process... you'll never get me to quit. Never."
-- Judge Brett Kavanaugh (Sept 27, 2018)
 
You know what bugged me the most about his testimony? It was that he kept saying something to the effect of, 'everyone else there said it never happened'. No. That's not what they said. What they said was they weren't aware of it happening. That's not the same thing, not by a long shot. And nobody called him on that. I wish Senator Booker had more time because he was starting to touch on that but then he moved on. If there's anything from Kavanaugh's testimony that leads me to believe he's guilty, it's his twisting those words.
 
Kavanaugh was clearly playing to an audience of one: Trump.
Trump, more than anyone, can make things worse for Republicans in the Midterms by making fun of them caving in to a Clinton conspiracy to torpedo Kavanaugh.
So unless Trump drops Kavanaugh, Republicans can't without risking being lambasted by their own President as being weak.


THIS is a very, very astute observation!
 
You know what bugged me the most about his testimony? It was that he kept saying something to the effect of, 'everyone else there said it never happened'. No. That's not what they said. What they said was they weren't aware of it happening. That's not the same thing, not by a long shot. And nobody called him on that. I wish Senator Booker had more time because he was starting to touch on that but then he moved on. If there's anything from Kavanaugh's testimony that leads me to believe he's guilty, it's his twisting those words.

No, that was not what they said. They all said that they had no knowledge of the party she described.

Enough lies
 
It says much about Kav that he made a point of announcing that he didn't watch Dr. Ford's testimony, to which he theoretically was replying.
 
No, that was not what they said. They all said that they had no knowledge of the party she described.

Enough lies

I stand corrected. What they actually said was they had no knowledge of the party. However, that's still not what he said they said. He said they said the attack never happened. And again, as I said before, that's not the same thing.

ETA - Also, I'm sorry that my misunderstanding of what was said was so egregious it makes me a "liar". I'll try to be more perfect in the future.
 
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