Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum - America's "Bigfoot Professor"

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It might be important to keep in mind -- one of the two gentlemen claimed to be there (a third, heironimus?) Bob Gimlin is on record saying he filmed the sequence of Patterson casting those tracks at Bluff Creek.

Gimlin said he took the camera after Patterson re-loaded it with film, and then went to look for tracks or other creatures.

They immediately found tracks, so presumably Gimlin filmed those, but he doesn't exactly say he did, but Gimlin had the camera when the tracks were found. According to the 67 radio interview...

It was a while after that before casting supposedly began, because of the trip necessary to get the materials.
 
It is part of the pgf. You mean the walk sequence? The paper is on the footprints, and the casts.

Let's say you can prove that the casts Meldrum analyzes in the ichnotaxon "paper" are not the ones Roger is pouring in the film (1st reel? 2nd reel? It's all gibberish after a while.). Meldrum's potential responses:

1) Nothing. Why reply at all? He'd have nothing to gain from engaging. Heck, Wakefield's autism/vaccines paper was not just discredited but officially redacted and millions still treat it as great science.

2) Should Meldrum be foolish enough to engage he could also reply "So? That film clip does not depict the casts used in my analysis. My theory rests on material from dozens of footprints from multiple locations in North America and Asia. Also, please direct The Shrike to stop referring to me as "Mormon" or even "LDS" because the old guy who tells us what we believe decided that all these easier ways to say things are what's wrong with America. Have a squatchy day!"
 
Let's say you can prove that the casts Meldrum analyzes in the ichnotaxon "paper" are not the ones Roger is pouring in the film (1st reel? 2nd reel? It's all gibberish after a while.). Meldrum's potential responses:

1) Nothing. Why reply at all? He'd have nothing to gain from engaging. Heck, Wakefield's autism/vaccines paper was not just discredited but officially redacted and millions still treat it as great science.

2) Should Meldrum be foolish enough to engage he could also reply "So? That film clip does not depict the casts used in my analysis. My theory rests on material from dozens of footprints from multiple locations in North America and Asia. Also, please direct The Shrike to stop referring to me as "Mormon" or even "LDS" because the old guy who tells us what we believe decided that all these easier ways to say things are what's wrong with America. Have a squatchy day!"

-Meldrum and his editors may have been driven to include the “trackway” frames by a desire to emulate the Laetoli finds.
-he links the poorly documented “second reel” frames to the claimed Oct 20 1967 Bluff Creek episode by saying that the cast in the ground (we can’t see the flip side that shows the anatomy) is part of the holotype ie one of the two casts made by Patterson from the creatures trackway !! This claim is unsubstantiated by him!!

Now, River looks at the cast in the ground and does what Meldrum should have done in his paper: he provides evidence that the cast in the ground may be one of the two exhibited by Patterson. But River then goes on to show evidence that the trackway containing the cast in ground is fake.

This is odd isn’t it?
Unquestionably Meldrum should have a red face. But better to say you’re sorry than to ask permission. In other words, that weak claim about his Laetoloid trackway footage and cast may have enabled the publication of the paper but now that “the damage is done” he can abandon it by simply admitting that he should not have tried to identify that cast in ground, and claiming that neither he nor River nor anyone can actually do so with any degree of certainty. That leaves most of his paper pretty much intact although without the bells and whistles.

Gimlin should have a red face also but he just “aw shucks folks” it all at this stage and his statements are contradictory, vague and changeable, and of little academic/probative value. Meldrum could call him (or his handler) tomorrow and get him to say/recant/qualify just about anything.
Not sayin’ he would call...just sayin’...
 
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Now, even that “red face” scenario depends on getting Meldrum’s attention, which has been shown already by River to be a difficult task.
Not impossible however.
 
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Now, even that “red face” scenario depends on getting Meldrum’s attention, which has been shown already by River to be a difficult task.
Not impossible however.

His response is not so much important. I suspect any formal rebuttal to his paper would be met with ignoring it. I don't suspect any "red face moments" would occur. What I do like about the idea of a formal rebuttal is this. It puts an official nail into that specific coffin. Those prints (photos and casts of them) have been touted for many years as an example of the "most authentic" trackway documented to date, and have been used as an example for the "mid tarsal" foot theory. Meldrum is aware of this evidence, quite so. So in the end if you're expecting some sort of shut down of bigfoot affairs or a big woop-te-doo you're most likely going to be extremely disappointed with the results of a well written rebuttal.

Footers are great at ignoring evidence. I can say one name that is a great example of that. Bob Heironimus. The only reason this is different is: it's on the film. It cannot be denied. Only ignored, or spun.
 
Let's say you can prove that the casts Meldrum analyzes in the ichnotaxon "paper" are not the ones Roger is pouring in the film (1st reel? 2nd reel? It's all gibberish after a while.). Meldrum's potential responses:

1) Nothing. Why reply at all? He'd have nothing to gain from engaging. Heck, Wakefield's autism/vaccines paper was not just discredited but officially redacted and millions still treat it as great science.

2) Should Meldrum be foolish enough to engage he could also reply "So? That film clip does not depict the casts used in my analysis. My theory rests on material from dozens of footprints from multiple locations in North America and Asia. Also, please direct The Shrike to stop referring to me as "Mormon" or even "LDS" because the old guy who tells us what we believe decided that all these easier ways to say things are what's wrong with America. Have a squatchy day!"


Shrike, I think you got that right. That is exactly what I suspect would be the followup.
 
Footers are great at ignoring evidence. I can say one name that is a great example of that. Bob Heironimus. The only reason this is different is: it's on the film. It cannot be denied. Only ignored, or spun.


Most would agree that the Surgeon's photo of Nessie was debunked when a conspirator in the hoax admitted such in 1994. How different than Bob H's claims? (Ans. not different)
 
In one account, the tracks were found by two loggers. Further, they requested anonymity. Given the long-standing tradition of camp pranks among loggers, and the multiplicity of stompers, it may be that these guys were experienced carver/hoaxers; they made the tracks and soon moved on to other logging camps. They almost certainly used their masterpiece carvings again but no one took them as seriously as Heryford.

Found some new info, in the form of a 1978 recounting of an earlier incident, which to me suggests that the Grays Harbor culprit was not Sheriff’s Deputy Heryford or the loggers, but rather another deputy named Herrington, who was involved in the 1982 “investigation.”
The previous incident: In July of 1969 Herrington claimed to have had a good look at a female Bigfoot at 235 am on a highway. According to his description the creature was a perfect match for Patterson’s subject of two years previous. I would remind that Patterson and a couple of surrogates had toured the PNW with their dog and pony show in the winter of 1968-9.
 
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For myself, Heryford remains a suspect because he was a Bigfooter even long before 1982. He speaks of being interested in Bigfoot as a youth. Then when he was a cop in 1977 he investigated a call of a child seeing a giant hairy hominid leap from a tree. He found "Bigfoot tracks" there at the tree and also a single hair sitting in a track which he kept for investigation. When Grays Harbor happened in 1982 he also found a single hair in a track which he also kept for investigation.

Heryford may not be a hoaxer but he would still be an ideal dupe or patsy because he apparently has personal enthusiasm for the existence of Bigfoot.
 
An extended piece appeared in the Seattle Times in 1971, giving additional details aka lies and is reprinted at the BROs. Note Herringtons link to Yakima and also the Patterson ref.

In his house trailer here, Verlin Herrington, a part-time Grays Harbor County deputy sheriff, has two curious samples of hair and a polaroid photo of some trampled brush and grass.

The photo is highlighted by a broken devil's club, which grows in these woods. Herrington believes the trampled brush and grass is a footprint, but it is indistinguishable in the photo.

It measures 18 1/2 inches "from the end of the heel to where you could see the toes stepped" and 7 inches wide, Herrington said.

One sample of hair is a single strand, dark brown almost reddish, 2 3/4 inches long. The other is a cluster, grayish and black. Both samples could be no more than cow's hair, but the deputy wonders.

HERRINGTON is convinced that the crushed grass and brush, which did not sink into dirt and could not be plaster-casted, was made by what he saw at 2:35 a.m. July 27 along the DeKay Road, about seven miles north of Hoquiam.

Despite conflicting reports that he believes what he saw was a bear, Herrington is firmly convinced that it was a Sasquatch - the fabled man-like ape of Indian legend.

Herrington, 30, born in Missouri and reared in Toppenish, Yakima County, is a shingle -mill employe here hired by the sheriff's office for the summer. His boss, Sheriff Pat Gallagher, is a nonbeliever in Sasquatches and thinks his deputy saw a bear. The deputy hadn't told him about the "footprint" photograph until yesterday.

Gallagher also does not want any undue alarm or people tramping around the woods with guns looking for Sasquatches. Since Herrington reported what he saw to the press, Gallagher has been beleaguered by telephone calls and television stations from Los Angeles to Vancouver, B.C. Gallagher is not overly enthused about the whole thing.

IT HAS BEEN a center of conversation in the Grays Harbor area, where reaction has ranged from loud guffaws to serious wondering.

FOR YEARS there have been reported sightings of Sasquatches - the West Coast version of the Abominable Snowman of the Himalayas.

The most publicized were photographs taken in Northern California by Roger Patterson of a creature which looked like a huge ape.

The Grays Harbor deputy said what he saw was between 7 and 8 feet tall and weighed 300 pounds or more, it was dark when he saw it standing by the side of the road.

COULD IT have been a bear? Herrington shook his head in the negative. He said:

"It had no snout. It had a face on it. It had feet instead of paws. It had breasts located like a human rather then a bear."

"I had centered my spotlight on it. It walked to the edge of the road, didn't fall down on all fours like a bear would have. The feet had hair right down to the soles but it did have toes. One hand was spread out and it had fingers."

I crawled out of the door of my car, readjusted the spotlight, drew my revolver and aimed at it. As I cocked the hammer, it went off in the brush, still erect."

Herrington said he had hoped to get a shot off to wound the creature so it could be tracked more easily. "I knew I couldn't kill it with my .38 police special," he said. "It seemed to realize I was going to shoot and moved pretty fast."

Herrington formerly worked on a brush crew in Snoqualmie National Forest and had seen many bears there as well as in the Grays Harbor area.

THE ONLY physical evidence he has is the photo of the trampled grass and the samples of hair.

Herrington took the photo the day after the sighting. He found the hair samples in the area three days later. He said the single strand of hair was on the inside of a huckleberry bush limb "like someone had grabbed the limb and broke it back."

There are cows in the area but Herrington did not believe a cow could have rubbed a hair loose inside the bush in such a position.

The cluster of hair was taken from a fence in the area, where the farmer said his cows "had been spooked" by something lately. The deputy said the farmer's cows had always crossed a bridge by the fence but would not when the cluster of hair was there "because of its smell."

Herrington said he hoped to have the hair analyzed.

AFTER THE deputy told his story, he was told four teen-agers saw a similar "monster" near Copalis five months earlier.

Mary Hyde, 16, one of the four, said she saw something big and hairy, standing on two feet late at night. She said she only got a fleeting glimpse of it, but that Greg Nichols, 17, of Copalis got a good look at it.

Nichols' response was, "I didn't see anything," accompanied by a big smile. "I don't want people to think I'm crazy," he said.

Bonnie Wiedman, 17, said she saw it "and it was too big to be a bear."

But other than size the youths gave no specific identification to distinguish it from a bear.

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But Herrington is firm in his conviction. He said: "What I saw wasn't a bear."
 
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He attended the same community college as Patterson’s fellow schemer and pal Jerry Lee Merritt.
YAKIMA - Verlin Roland Herrington 66, of White Swan passed away on November15, 2005 at Yakima Valley Memorial Hospital.

Verlin was born January 5, 1939 in Nebo, Mo. to Alfred and Maude Herrington. He came to Toppenish at an early age, he graduated from Toppenish High School. He later attended Yakima Valley Community College and Central Washington University. Verlin worked for the State of Washington Parks Department as a Park Ranger at various State parks around Washington. After his retirement he return to White Swan.

His first wife Margaret J. …
 
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And Herrington was buried on the Yakima Reservation at Wapato where Gimlin grew up and attended school until going into the service. After the Navy Gimlin returned and was in the Wapato Fire Department. Both Gimlin and Herrington were born in Missouri.
Verlin Roland Herrington
BIRTH 5 Jan 1939
DEATH 15 Nov 2005 (aged 66)
BURIAL
Reservation Community Memorial Park
Wapato, Yakima County, Washington,
 
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Maine rubes in danger?!
Factoring in estimates for range, social structure, lifespan and habitat, Maine would appear to be able to sustain a population of around 200, he said.

“When you realize that in Idaho, there’s 25,000 to 35,000 black bear compared to 150 to 250 Sasquatch, hypothetically, they’re so rare that these encounters are entirely happenstance,” Meldrum said. “The people who go out, like me, and intentionally look for evidence, I’ve gone 20 years and I’ve found a half-dozen sets of footprints, I’ve caught a glimpse of one, I think, I’ve heard a couple vocalizations, but on the same token I’ve only seen black bear in the wild maybe a half-dozen times in all that time tromping around.”
 
So there are 200 Bigfoots living in Maine and 250 living in Idaho (not to mention the other states and provinces) and we still don't have scientific confirmation of their existence? That's totally ridiculous and you have to be crazy in the head to think that this is reality.

Meldrum said:
they’re so rare that these encounters are entirely happenstance
That's bullcrap. Encounters and biological confirmation should be easily achieved by going where the Bigfoot lives.

He talks like... like... like he thinks that other scientists aren't listening.
 
Most would agree that the Surgeon's photo of Nessie was debunked when a conspirator in the hoax admitted such in 1994. How different than Bob H's claims? (Ans. not different)
Hosting Meldrum this year, and then:
Loren Coleman, founder of the International Cryptozoology Museum, plans to announce at his International Cryptozoology Conference next weekend in Portland that he’ll be leading an expedition to Loch Ness next year in search of Nessie
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but in 1978 (2 years before the “Heryford” farce), Herrington drive over 200 miles to attend the big celeb-filled conference on Humanoid Monsters: Sasquatch and Other Phenomena in Vancouver BC. While there, he gave a reporter this astonishingly PGF-derivative story.

On July 27, 1969, Verlin Herrington was driving home from a nights work in Grays Harbor County. At 2:35 a.m., he rounded a curve and “spotted a large hairy creature standing in the middle of the road. I put on my brakes and came to a halt, then coasted on up to about 85 to 90 feet away from her. The thing was standing in a stooped position, startled, watching my vehicle. I came to a complete stop, got my spotlight out, and turned it on the animal. I noticed that its eyes glowed yellow in the light. I would estimate its height at seven to eight feet and it’s eight at something over 300 lbs. it had hair all over of a dark brown color, but the hair on its head was longer than that on the rest of its body—between 5 and seven inches long. The first thing that startled me was that it had breasts on it like those of a woman. They had hair on them also except for the nipples, which were black, like the thing’s face. While it was standing I could see the back of one hand and the palm of another, and I could distinguish fingers. It had legs like a human and buttocks like a human.” Herrington got out of his car, cocked his pistol, and the thing disappeared into the woods.

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So there are 200 Bigfoots living in Maine and 250 living in Idaho (not to mention the other states and provinces) and we still don't have scientific confirmation of their existence? That's totally ridiculous and you have to be crazy in the head to think that this is reality.

Increasingly so.

Remember that the father of Bigfoot, the Yeti, was in a far-distant land that 99.99999% of Americans (consumers of Bigfoot pulp fiction) would never see in their lifetimes.

The application of abominable snowman to the Americas in the 1950's as "bigfoot" was still at a time when remnants of wilderness existed, at least in name.

But as time has passed, the tracking of even a lone wolverine has been made possible because of the amazing technology in recording and communications. Drones can fly 24/7 over any subject area. So the claim families of gigantic animals could evade detection and tracking is absurd.

That our fish and game agencies - state and federal - could not be shown these creatures. All the scientists studying everything from microbes through coastal brownies at 2,000 lbs. in said preserves or forests - how bigfeets could escape their attention.

Yes, with today's technology that idea is so idiotic as to suggest something else entirely going on with the proponent.
 
Hosting Meldrum this year, and then:
Loren Coleman, founder of the International Cryptozoology Museum, plans to announce at his International Cryptozoology Conference next weekend in Portland that he’ll be leading an expedition to Loch Ness next year in search of Nessie
More from there:
...Coleman, conference host and founder of the International Cryptozoology Museum, said he was approached by a tour group wanting to partner with the museum for an expedition in June 2019. “We go to Loch Ness, go to castles, talk to eyewitnesses and go to some of the sighting areas,” said Coleman. Announcing that expedition, which costs $6,000 per person, helps kick off the conference Saturday morning...
Wow, Scotland, castles, talk to people and go to some places near Loch Ness... what an expedition. Thanks Loren. BTW don't forget to think about a substantial and additional budget for the drinks ...to get a real chance to meet Nessie... I guess that they are not included in the $6,000.
 
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