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Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1029815133235830790

The date on President Trump's statement about revoking John Brennan's security clearance? July 26. Three weeks ago. I guess it's just a coincidence that the White House decided to announce this as they struggle to deal with the fallout from Omarosa's book.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1029818064290947072

The White House has now issued a second statement that doesn't include this date.

Statement embedded in first tweet.
 
It was a stupid thing to say. But in context, his comment makes sense. If your objective is to generally mock Cuomo, you've got the ammo. If you want to get into what he was actually talking about, more work is required.


He might have been right, but maybe a little too subtle for a political campaign speech:
“We are not going to make America great, America. It was never that great,” Mr. Cuomo said. “We have not reached greatness. We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged.”

Mr. Cuomo made the comment at the end of a 20-minute speech that focused heavily on Mr. Trump. The event was ostensibly a bill-signing ceremony for new penalties for sex trafficking in New York.
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“He has it on his hat: ‘Make America Great Again.’ What does that mean? We’re going to go back to a time when America was great. Right? ‘Great again.’ The whole concept is, it’s retrospective,” Mr. Cuomo said. “When do you want to go back to, Mr. President? What was the great time that you want to take us back to, when America was great?”

Mr. Cuomo went on to suggest that Mr. Trump wanted to return to a time before gay marriage and the women’s equality and environmental protection movements and “before these new immigrants started to come across the border.”

“That’s when America was great, in his head,” Mr. Cuomo told the crowd in Manhattan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
He might have been right, but maybe a little too subtle for a political campaign speech
If you're going to worry every moment about what sound-bite the likes of The Big Dog will nibble out you'll never make a rousing speech.




“He has it on his hat: ‘Make America Great Again.’ What does that mean? We’re going to go back to a time when America was great. Right? ‘Great again.’ The whole concept is, it’s retrospective,” Mr. Cuomo said. “When do you want to go back to, Mr. President? What was the great time that you want to take us back to, when America was great?”

Mr. Cuomo went on to suggest that Mr. Trump wanted to return to a time before gay marriage and the women’s equality and environmental protection movements and “before these new immigrants started to come across the border.”

“That’s when America was great, in his head,” Mr. Cuomo told the crowd in Manhattan.
I wonder what answer Trumpists think Trump would give to Cuomo's question.
 
Trump approval rating among black voters reaches 36%

A new Rasmussen poll shows that 49% of likely U.S. voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. The poll found that 49% also disapprove.

Furthermore, President Trump’s approval ratings among black voters has reached 36%. On this day last year, Trump’s approval among black voters was 19%.

https://www.kusi.com/rasmussen-poll-trump-approval-rating-among-black-voters-reaches-36/ (Aug 15, 2018)


Rest in peace Democrat party.
 
Look, rational people have been asking, in respect to the MAGA crap, "When do you think America was 'great' and how did you determine that?" for the last 3 years. Trumpists have never answered it, nor has their leader.

Why would you think it is any different now?

And they know when the lesser races knew their place isn't the answer that will play well.
 
Look, rational people have been asking, in respect to the MAGA crap, "When do you think America was 'great' and how did you determine that?" for the last 3 years. Trumpists have never answered it, nor has their leader.

Why would you think it is any different now?

You mean, America was greater when 5 times as many Americans were unionized and the top marginal tax rate was 90 percent? Or maybe when governors stood in front of schoolhouse doors to prevent a child from attending class? Or maybe when Congressmen weren't outnumbered by professional lobbyists 50 to 1? Which part of yesterday was better? ...I bet we might disagree on what that is.
 
So??? Hmmm, hmmm, see what happened there everyone? :D

I was rebutting your assertion regarding straw man fallacy. It is cool, tho

Your post about Brennan (not?) being a “Patriot?” That did nothing to rebut my assertion, unless you care to explain how.
 
Rasmussen...


It reminds me of a comic strip that was in Mad Magazine decades ago. A reporter was discussing a "disturbing new survey" of young men ages 18-25 that indicated that 90% of the men questioned had no interest in ever getting married. The punchline, which wouldn't work now of course, was that the survey was conducted among the male students at a hairdressing school.
 
So, remember how the republican tax bill was supposed to simplify people's taxes (as well as giving more money to the wealthy)? They even had a big press event where they gave Trump as sample tax form that was less than a sheet of paper.

Well, they lied...

From: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/401988-analysis-gop-tax-law-increased-complexity-of-tax-code
The nonpartisan budget watchdog group Peter G. Peterson Foundation found in an analysis released this week that the number of tax expenditures ticked up from 216 before the law was enacted to 223 after... the increase in the number of tax expenditures indicates that the tax code increased in complexity following the law's passage...
 
Something else I've been wanting to say and the Brennan thing is maybe a good example. If you're in the media and your job is to find panelists to say the most inflammatory things possible (in the name of shining an aggressive light on the activities of the Trump administration), you're going to be happy that the former CIA director is calling Trump a traitor. You're going to trot it out right away and high-five and see it as an unmitigated good. But I wonder how carefully the media has considered its role. There is actually a reason not to immediately go with the most incendiary opinion available.

But when I think about that, I get into uncomfortable questions about the motives of the press. In the case of the MSM, is the goal to shine a light on perfidy? To make sure Trump is not "normalized"? To keep those clicks and ratings up? To create whole beats like Chris Cillizza's editor-at-large with daily or more often "analyses" telling people what the news means? And same thing with Fox or Breitbart or whoever. What do they see as their role?

There have been a couple of times when public opinion really seemed to crest against Trump: during the family separations thing, and during Helsinki, and to a somewhat lesser extent after the summit with Kim Jong-un. Those were times when I felt the potential of a genuine anti-Trump groundswell. But I have an uneasy feeling that the relentless news coverage, the seeming need to fill the air 24-7 with analysis, opinions, tidbits, tweets etc., leaves little room for the average person to simply consider what they know and begin to form their own opinions about how they feel about the job Trump is doing. I can see why the press does it; they feel they have to emphatically not normalize Trump, or, in Fox's case to defend Patriot Trump against the gutter press that would bring him down.

I emphatically do not have any answers about this. I wonder if the whole country might be better off with a 24-hour or 48-hour blackout on Trump news. - or maybe just Trump speculation. No reading the tea leaves about Manafort, no analysis of whether Trump might or might not have said the "N word," no wondering what Omarosa really has.

As I write this Mom is listening to MSNBC and though I find it significantly less obnoxious than Fox, it's still kind of obnoxious. They're pumping up how agonizing tomorrow will be for Trump. But then, they'll have to fill the air tomorrow night as well. Seemingly everything has to be portrayed as the last straw.

Maybe we could just has a moratorium on last-straw-ism :cool:

ETA: And obviously I am speaking as someone who wants him gone. But I want that to come as the result of a growing consensus that he is not fit to serve. And IMO that requires at least some degree of reflection, away from the shiny people on TV telling us what to think.
Well-articulated food for thought.
 
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