Qanon Conspiracy theories

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buka001 said:
I called this madness.

Hence my original post. Picking up on Qanon followers on twitter etc I could see this was going to go big, given the way many Trump supporters see him as a saviour of America, it wouldn't take much to push their beliefs into the stratosphere.

I know debunking these stories is like a game of whack-a-mole, but seeing some counter points to the perpetual rubbish would be interesting.

Whoever is behind Q is pretty smart.

Knows how to play the base.

Makes them all feel as if they are a part of this "revolution".

One of the fastest growing conspiracy theories I have ever seen.

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I'm hoping the intense crazy scares off the rest from the Trump bandwagon.
 
"Q" is a Dept. of Energy clearance level. It doesn't have much relevance outside the DOE, since one of the relevant political nuggets is that DOE didn't want to be beholden to others for their security infrastructure. When they were given jurisdiction over the nation's nuclear program they legitimately did the power grab: no DOD or national intelligence interference. They were supposed to be a law unto themselves. And while Q is a high-ish level, it's not "top secret" in any sense that would imply keyword clearance or knowledge of topics outside their direct specialty. When I was working at DOE I was the only one not Q-cleared in my workgroup. It's not as uncommon or special as it seems they want us to believe. Looks to me like another "impress the rubes" ploy combining a nugget or two of fact with a whole lot of reliance on people's preconceptions and misconceptions of how security works.
 
I heard about this "theory" a month or so ago during one of my forays to the dark side - that is, Reddit. I poked around the Qanon subreddit a little. Pretty kooky stuff, but also mostly the same repackaged malarkey to which we've all become accustomed. There's a great deal of creepy Trump veneration, which is totally weird and almost too over-the-top to take seriously. I suppose the cult angle is a little extra-disquieting.

I mostly just felt burning hatred for the idiocy on display, tinged with a dash of fear. I thought about starting a thread here, but figured since there wasn't one already, the whole thing must be pretty small and insignificant. Seems it's growing, though - super.
 
isissxn said:
Pretty kooky stuff, but also mostly the same repackaged malarkey to which we've all become accustomed. There's a great deal of creepy Trump veneration, which is totally weird and almost too over-the-top to take seriously.
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That's the alt-right conspiracy MO. It's Pizzagate all over again. Some people are gullible idiots and buy the whole thing, some don't believe any of it and are shamelessly trolling, a bunch of people half believe and fall somewhere in between. It's all a big joke until someone takes it too seriously and starts popping off rounds at a pizza joint. It's weaponized bad-faith.
 
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Praktik said:
So. Where is the Moon Base Clavius (Moon Hoax debunk source) , the ContrailScience.Com (chemtrail debunking) or the Mark Roberts (9/11) but for debunking Pizzagate/QAnon/The Storm stuff?
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Speaking as the author of Clavius I can attest to the giant amount of work it takes to do something like that. Especially to keep it current.
 
JayUtah said:
Speaking as the author of Clavius I can attest to the giant amount of work it takes to do something like that. Especially to keep it current.
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And ,I repeat, Qanon only really hit the big tme a few days ago. But, in a month or os, we will see the Qanon specific debunking websites springing up.
 
isissxn said:
I heard about this "theory" a month or so ago during one of my forays to the dark side - that is, Reddit. I poked around the Qanon subreddit a little. Pretty kooky stuff, but also mostly the same repackaged malarkey to which we've all become accustomed. There's a great deal of creepy Trump veneration, which is totally weird and almost too over-the-top to take seriously. I suppose the cult angle is a little extra-disquieting.

I mostly just felt burning hatred for the idiocy on display, tinged with a dash of fear. I thought about starting a thread here, but figured since there wasn't one already, the whole thing must be pretty small and insignificant. Seems it's growing, though - super.
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I repeat the advice for which I am been heavily criticized;Those who are concerned with the US surviving as a democracy should give serious consideration to buying a rifle. If the Qanon kooks get in postions of power, it might really come to that.
 
dudalb said:
I repeat the advice for which I am been heavily criticized;Those who are concerned with the US surviving as a democracy should give serious consideration to buying a rifle. If the Qanon kooks get in postions of power, it might really come to that.
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The time to do that would be now. Shooting is a skill that takes practice. Buying a rifle when the world goes to hell is too late.
 
carlitos said:
If you have 20 minutes, the NYT podcast "The Daily" had a synopsis this morning. It seems like a 2-sided thing, with evildoers plotting against Trump and smuggling children for sex, and Trump being selected to be the leader that takes down the evildoers. Very comic-book like.

https://www.nytimes.com/podcasts/the-daily
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Sounds like the whole pizzagate nonsense all over again. I guess the pedophile thing is there to gin up the outrage.
 
Brainster said:
Sounds like the whole pizzagate nonsense all over again. I guess the pedophile thing is there to gin up the outrage.
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Well, we've blown that whole, "We all agree that Nazis are bad, right?" thing, so we've got to find someone we can all rally around hating.
 
LSSBB said:
I'm hoping the intense crazy scares off the rest from the Trump bandwagon.
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It doesn't have to scare off everyone from the bandwagon, just a few. The base is the base and it's not going anywhere. Who it may scare off are the lesser of two evils voters. It's those voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and the I-4 Corridor in Florida who pushed him over the top.
 
I haven’t signed in for over a year, but I saw a segment on a news program and I was so discouraged that I had to post. A reporter asked one of the Q folks demonstrating outside the most recent President Trump speech if she had any evidence to support the theory that this Q stuff is real. She responded “no, but you don’t have any evidence that it’s not real.”


ARRRGGGGG!
 
There's a good chance this is all a prank pulled on MAGAdooks.

"Coincidences are hard to ignore," Bui, Cattabriga, and Guglielmi said. "Dispatches signed 'Q' allegedly coming from some dark meanders of top state power, exactly like in our book."

They also pointed to the fact that the Q from the QAnon community is described almost exactly like Luther Blissett used to be described, "an entity of about 10 people that have high security clearance."

One of the most popular theories in the QAnon community is that John F. Kennedy Jr. faked his own death in 1999 and became QAnon, which is also the year Q was first published.

"We can't say for sure that it's an homage," they said. "But one thing is almost certain: our book has something to do with it. It may have started as some sort of, er, 'fan fiction' inspired by our novel, and then quickly became something else."
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Q is a beauty of a Conspiracy, since there is nothing that cannot be interpreted as supporting it. It also gives Trump carte blanche as well as an excuse for total failure.
I tip my hat to the originators.
 
Out of curiosity I looked up Qanon groups on Facebook.

Serious crazy, some of these groups have over 1000 posts a day. :eye-poppi

From PizzaGate to the Tuscon "Child Trafficking Bunker" to this, it is amazing how much energy people put into this. They stay amped up and motivated continuously, for months and years.

Qanon won't fade away so much as it will just morph into the next thing.
 
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