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Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

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Sadly, a lesson for life.

Why do we teach our kids not to lie, cheat and steal when it's obviously such an effective tactic?

Which begs the question. Did Donald reward his children when they lied to them?

'That was a good one Ivanka.' Or maybe, I almost believed you that time Donnie. Or 'C'mon Eric, that was pathetic'.
 
Which begs the question. Did Donald reward his children when they lied to them?

'That was a good one Ivanka.' Or maybe, I almost believed you that time Donnie. Or 'C'mon Eric, that was pathetic'.

Supposing he spent any time with his children they will have been moulded by how they saw him act, the kids would have very quickly learnt that their father would warrant no challenge to his ego,
 
Sadly, a lesson for life.

Why do we teach our kids not to lie, cheat and steal when it's obviously such an effective tactic?

Now they have a great example. They can lie, cheat and steal (eminent domain), and grow up to be President! And keep it up once they are elected!

I have one word for you son.

Judges.


(Meaning the appointment of 'conservative' ones that is.)
 
Which begs the question. Did Donald reward his children when they lied to them?

'That was a good one Ivanka.' Or maybe, I almost believed you that time Donnie. Or 'C'mon Eric, that was pathetic'.

He didnt teach them to lie to him. He probably taught them that they are Trump's and it's okay to do anything to advance the family business.
 
Hell, I admit I don't understand their strategy. Maybe it's simply a shot across Trump's bow showing Trump that Cohen is about to flip unless Trump brings him in. Personally, I think if it is, it is pathetic and won't work but maybe Cohen is getting desperate. He's on an island and it's getting serious.

Cohen's lawyer has come out and stated that the leak didn't come from them, and they suspect the Whitehouse released it, possibly to weaken Cohen's worth to the prosecutors.
 
Cohen's lawyer has come out and stated that the leak didn't come from them, and they suspect the Whitehouse released it, possibly to weaken Cohen's worth to the prosecutors.

I thought CNN said that Cohen's side had leaked it. I don't understand how Trump's making that particular bit of audio public weakens Cohen's case for prosecutors. Prosecutors already have it. Cohen's public claim that Trump knew about the meeting with Russians seems to undermine his ability to negotiate with prosecutors.
 
Cohen's lawyer has come out and stated that the leak didn't come from them, and they suspect the Whitehouse released it, possibly to weaken Cohen's worth to the prosecutors.

THIS!

Cohen gains nothing by showing his cards early, and it makes absolutely no sense for him to do so.

Trump, on the other hand, knowing that this information exists and will eventually be made public, has nothing to lose and everything to gain by releasing it. In doing so, they get ahead of the game, lessen the shock value of the information and weaken Cohen's hand should he decide to flip.

Interestingly, according to former US Attorney, and senior official at the FBI, Chuck Rosenberg, its a flawed strategy, because regardless of how the information became public, Cohen would still have to testify to this in court*... an anonymous leak from an unknown source is not evidence that can be used in court.

You can see Rachel Maddow's interview with him here

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...wer-meeting-potent-despite-leak-1286479939593


*ETA: Of course, this is assuming that Michael Cohen is still alive to testify - and with the criminal, pathological liar currently charge at the White House, that is not a given....Dolt 45 could take his lead from Henry II of England, after all, its not as if the Dolt hasn't tried this sort of thing before; he did "hope" that James Comey would "let go" of any investigation into Michael Flynn.
 
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Cohen's lawyer has come out and stated that the leak didn't come from them, and they suspect the Whitehouse released it, possibly to weaken Cohen's worth to the prosecutors.

Maybe it's not either. Maybe somebody is shaking the tree. Putting the fear of God into Trump, Don Jr. and others. Supposedly others were there when Jr. told them about the meeting. Maybe this is about to get one of the other witnesses to come forward to corroborate.

Of course, I'm just spit balling. Somebody released the info and they probably had a reason. :confused::boggled: Maybe.
 
Cohen's lawyer has come out and stated that the leak didn't come from them, and they suspect the Whitehouse released it, possibly to weaken Cohen's worth to the prosecutors.
But who in the White House? It's been leaking like a sieve since day one from multiple sources all looking out to get an advantage for themselves.
 
But who in the White House? It's been leaking like a sieve since day one from multiple sources all looking out to get an advantage for themselves.

It seems that the only ones that have access to the information are Mueller's team, Cohen's Lawyer, and Trump's Lawyers.. Mueller's team didn't. Cohen's Lawyer claims it didn't come from them....
 
What I'd like to know is how the claim "all politicians are corrupt morons" is in any way different from "all cops are violent psychopaths" or "all rich white people are tax evaders".
Or "all Trump supporters are racist nitwits"?

Educate me.

Still waiting for an answer to this.
 
It seems that the only ones that have access to the information are Mueller's team, Cohen's Lawyer, and Trump's Lawyers.. Mueller's team didn't. Cohen's Lawyer claims it didn't come from them....

Maybe it's not either. Maybe somebody is shaking the tree. Putting the fear of God into Trump, Don Jr. and others. Supposedly others were there when Jr. told them about the meeting. Maybe this is about to get one of the other witnesses to come forward to corroborate.

Of course, I'm just spit balling. Somebody released the info and they probably had a reason. :confused::boggled: Maybe.


A leak in the office of the Special Master?
 
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A leak in the office of the Special Master?

Maybe Mueller's office wants to see who might panic.

Maybe it's someone on Trump's team who despises Trump and would love to take him down without being public about it.

Maybe it's Lanny Davis trying to get his client out of the middle of the road and forcing his hand.

We could do this all day. We probably will never know for sure. It took 30 years for the public to learn Deep Throat's identity.
 
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