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"European Union representatives told me that they would start buying soybeans from our great farmers immediately. Also, they will be buying vast amounts of LNG!"

"Great to be back on track with the European Union. This was a big day for free and fair trade!"

Who will start buying? EU countries import around 27 million tons of Soya for animal feed. It is individual feed companies that do the importing, not the EU as an organisation. these companies already have supply contracts, who is going to make them change?


It's the same for Gas. Individual energy suppliers buy gas on an open market, they aren't going to swithc to US supplies just because Trump wants it.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweets

"European Union representatives told me that they would start buying soybeans from our great farmers immediately. Also, they will be buying vast amounts of LNG!"

"Great to be back on track with the European Union. This was a big day for free and fair trade!"

Who will start buying? EU countries import around 27 million tons of Soya for animal feed. It is individual feed companies that do the importing, not the EU as an organisation. these companies already have supply contracts, who is going to make them change?


It's the same for Gas. Individual energy suppliers buy gas on an open market, they aren't going to swithc to US supplies just because Trump wants it.
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This just in Trump pulls **** out of his ass and tweets it. News at 11.
 
LSSBB said:
This just in Trump pulls **** out of his ass and tweets it. News at 11.
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I will never, never, understand how anybody could be a bigtime supporter of this idiot.
I can understand a sort of cynical support,on the grounds "well,he will give us tax breaks" but this blind worship, I just don't get.
 
And apparently tariffs and protectionism has been one of the few things that Trump has pretty much advocated throughout his political career. I can't believe his reversal on them is anything other then a shoddy political maneuveur because of pressure within the GOP. In a few weeks, I predict he will be at odds with the EU again.
 
CNN pool reporter banned from event for asking "offensive" questions:
Reporter Kaitlan Collins said press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and communications director Bill Shine told her she was banned from a late-afternoon announcement in the Rose Garden involving Trump and European Union president Jean-Claude Juncker a few hours after she sought to question Trump during a press-pool “spray” in the Oval Office.

Blocking a credentialed White House reporter from an event open to all members of the media is highly unusual and possibly unprecedented, and it marks another low point in the Trump White House’s highly strained relationship with the news media.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...e8-bcd5-9d911c784c38_story.html?noredirect=on
 
Derail, but not Derail

Who's pulling the strings nowadays, e.g. which advisor is smart enough to channel the Trump insanity the way they've been managing the past week or two.

We know they've got good data. But now they're using it. Trump's tweets, for the most part, are targeting the sub-points in the various polls that he knows there is support for, particularly trade and US job protection. Someone's directing him. He's not this smart or this focused on his own. He'd be off arguing about ratings or crowd sizes, but tweet after tweet keeps hammering home the talking points (well, in his case "wondering points") that actually resonate with the Republican and Republican-leaning base. No one's that fond of tariffs, but everyone is fond of decreasing the deficit and protecting American jobs.

I doubt that it's family; neither the Trumps nor the Kushners are that bright. It's got to be one of the inner circle, though. Miller?
 
Foolmewunz said:
Derail, but not Derail

Who's pulling the strings nowadays, e.g. which advisor is smart enough to channel the Trump insanity the way they've been managing the past week or two.
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I have been wondering the same thing. The tweets are too coherent to be the work of Trump alone.
 
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The "trade agreement" being worked out with Europe. How do you say "You've been pwnd" in Esperanto?

We want to create a virtual "free zone" for manufactured goods. I'm sure someone's noted in the Times or WaPo, but that's a concession to the EU. They export far more manufactured goods to the US than vice-versa. They also have an edge in scientific/lab equipment, production and control machinery, including robotic, and almost every other category. Yes, there are a lot of goods of the same sorts with different applications exported from the USA to the EU but, and this is very important to understand just how badly he's collapsing,... almost the entire imbalance between the EU and US is "manufactured goods".

This is what he's been complaining about and was going to fix. He's now talking about agreeing to have zero duties on those goods. Does he think the imports will go down?

And, well, lemme tell ya what I got for you. If you buy now, we'll include not 20, not 30, but 50 billion in soy beans (which the EU needs anyway because China is buying everything Russia, Brazil and Ukraine produce).

Welcome to 1650. America has become the hewer of wood and hauler of water. "Look, Chief Donald! (holding up Bic Lighter) "You give us shiny yellow metal and bwana give you this magic fire stick!"

Big Win for the Soy Bean Producers, said the clowns on Fox & Friends this morning. Wait'll Donald finds out that the soy bean producers would rather just collect the 30 billion in relief they've been promised and haven't planted enough soy beans to sell.
 
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trump Tweets

"Great meeting on Trade today with @JunckerEU and representatives of the European Union. We have come to a very strong understanding and are all believers in no tariffs, no barriers and no subsidies. Work on documents has already started and the process is moving..."

"...along quickly. European Union Nations will be open to the United States and at the same time benefiting by everything we are doing for them. There was great warmth and feeling in the room - a breakthrough has been quickly made that nobody thought possible!"
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In the unlikely event that there is actually some substance behind the grand claims from both parties, I still wouldn't be celebrating if I was Jean-Claude Juncker. President Trump has repeatedly shown that he's perfectly happy to unilaterally back out of international agreements. I expect him to do the same here.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
But usually when that occurs, the transcriber would note: [unintelligible] and continue transcribing.

It is very common, the standard, I read transcribed doctors' recorded notes all the time.
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According to the story the transcriber didn't hear anything for the first part of the question, because there was no audio on the feed.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Everyone watching heard Putin's answer.
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I think you mean question, rather than answer. And it's allegedly because they were watching a different feed.

I ask again which is the more parsimonious answer - that both the White House and the Washington Post got their live feed from Bloomberg and that that live feed had an audio glitch, or that the White House and the Washington Post coordinated in order to edit out that part of that one question in an identical fashion, with the Post then looking to cover its tracks by changing its transcript and issuing a retraction?
 
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Foolmewunz said:
The "trade agreement" being worked out with Europe. How do you say "You've been pwnd" in Esperanto?
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Vi estis posedata, or something to that effect. Google translate and all that.

We want to create a virtual "free zone" for manufactured goods. I'm sure someone's noted in the Times or WaPo, but that's a concession to the EU. They export far more manufactured goods to the US than vice-versa. They also have an edge in scientific/lab equipment, production and control machinery, including robotic, and almost every other category. Yes, there are a lot of goods of the same sorts with different applications exported from the USA to the EU but, and this is very important to understand just how badly he's collapsing,... almost the entire imbalance between the EU and US is "manufactured goods".

This is what he's been complaining about and was going to fix. He's now talking about agreeing to have zero duties on those goods. Does he think the imports will go down?
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You're missing the point of the deal. It is not to benefit the US as a whole, it might benefit a select few in the soy farming business - saving them from bankruptcy due to Chinese boycotts, more or less - it is to benefit Trump personally. There are mid-term elections in November and all the signs point to it being either Democrat wave or a Democrat tidal wave. If Trump is to survive politically he must give his base a victory of some sort, anything will do. Literarily anything, even something that's actually a defeat, but can be spun into a temporary victory, will do. A few months down the line his base won't remember it anyway.

It's the perpetual today 'strategy', applied when things get tough. The EU agreement, which is no agreement at all, just a bunch of promises that may or may not still exist six months down the line, shows Juncker learned how to play Trump. It also shows Trump is desperate.

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Minoosh said:
I have been wondering the same thing. The tweets are too coherent to be the work of Trump alone.
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I've been wondering if an aide is actually typing them. The spelling has improved and there's occasionally some tricky grammar that comes out right.
 
GlennB said:
I've been wondering if an aide is actually typing them. The spelling has improved and there's occasionally some tricky grammar that comes out right.
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Oh, that much is obvious. My question is more towards who's actually directing him on the subject matter? The tweets are not only not illiterate, but they are directed and calculating and targeting the right people (from their perspective). The numbers must've gone down on immigration so there's only the occasional mention. "Dems wanna let dark people eat your brains with spoons!" is harder to sell than "American jobs must be protected".

Heck, maybe they have a production line with subject-matter specialists. It's not improved empty rhetoric, but it's the empty rhetoric that currently sells instead of his usual scattergun approach.
 
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