Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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Jim_MDP said:
AIUI... it continued backstage. Very heatedly. How bad, I don't know, but sadly... no blows were struck. :D

I was just curious what position Janine held that set Whoopie off so badly (could be anything I suppose... the woman strikes me as a comic book villian.)
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Some hair-pulling at least would be nice. They are probably both pretty tough broads.

On camera, Janine said Trump was superior by every metric and Whoopi suggested other metrics.
 
Jim_MDP said:
AIUI... it continued backstage. Very heatedly. How bad, I don't know, but sadly... no blows were struck. :D

I was just curious what position Janine held that set Whoopie off so badly (could be anything I suppose... the woman strikes me as a comic book villian.)
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Pirro looked at Meghan McCain and said something about "hysterical" people who suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome and then pointed at Whoopie. It was extremely rude of Pirro. That is what set Whoopie off.
I've watched The View for years and one thing Whoopi is not is "hysterical". There is a reason she is the moderator and the others listen to her. She is the host who keeps things under control when they start to get heated. The View has had many conservatives on and none have been booted off the show because none behaved in the way Pirro did.

Pirro also called all the hosts an expletive in front of the audience. She didn't mention that in her "oh, poor me" whine to Hannity.
 
Minoosh said:
Some hair-pulling at least would be nice. They are probably both pretty tough broads.
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I'll just point out, again, that Judge Pirro even monologues like Macho Man Randy Savage, so I assume she'd be some sort of pro wrestling fan.
 
Minoosh said:
Trump would be frustrating for a "handler" (as Putin is) because you can't rely on him giving the message he's been told to give. IMO Trump was so unclear Monday that it's very hard which half of the proposal he was referring to.
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That assumes that Trump is being given specific messages, and not just manipulated and/or intimidated.
 
Mumbles said:
I'll just point out, again, that Judge Pirro even monologues like Macho Man Randy Savage, so I assume she'd be some sort of pro wrestling fan.
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You know, Mumbles, I've never been able to tell if that is her real speaking voice or a put on for the power-loving Fox audience. Does anyone have any insight into that?
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
That assumes that Trump is being given specific messages, and not just manipulated and/or intimidated.
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You're right; it depends on what Putin was trying to accomplish. I'm still not sure. Does he want to wield Trump like a blunt instrument, or like a scalpel?
 
Mumbles said:
I'll just point out, again, that Judge Pirro even monologues like Macho Man Randy Savage, so I assume she'd be some sort of pro wrestling fan.
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Pisses me off that this witch was clocked doing 119 in a 65 mph zone and was allowed to bargain down to doing 90 mph. Something seems ... off.

Fox News' Jeanine Pirro pleads guilty to 95 mph speeding ticket, down from 119 mph

That should have been charged as a felony IMO. It shows how much of a **** she gives about other people's safety. And her own, actually.
 
Minoosh said:
You're right; it depends on what Putin was trying to accomplish. I'm still not sure. Does he want to wield Trump like a blunt instrument, or like a scalpel?
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It must be a challenge to steer Trump in any direction, but I bet Putin is playing on Trump's nationalism, and the financial cost of these alliances we have, because the one thing that Putin wants more than anything is for us to turn isolationist and break away from our historical closeness with Europe. Then Putin will have free reign in Eastern Europe and the Baltic. Germans and French and British aren't going to die for Estonia if the U.S. ignores an article V declaration.

That's my thinking on how Putin's manipulating him.
 
Cain said:
So he lied about more than one extra-marital affair. He could still be truthful when he denies assaulting women. And you should just take him at his word that there's no collusion. In the end, everyone has told lies, and what about Benghazi and Clinton's e-mails?
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You're being sarcastic here, right?
 
Fudbucker said:
It must be a challenge to steer Trump in any direction, but I bet Putin is playing on Trump's nationalism, and the financial cost of these alliances we have, because the one thing that Putin wants more than anything is for us to turn isolationist and break away from our historical closeness with Europe. Then Putin will have free reign in Eastern Europe and the Baltic. Germans and French and British aren't going to die for Estonia if the U.S. ignores an article V declaration.

That's my thinking on how Putin's manipulating him.
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I think you underestimate the Germans, French and British, at least the British, we already have an 'Enhanced forward Presence' in the Baltics,. My nephew Nathan is stationed there at the moment. He is a Combat Medic.

https://www.army.mod.uk/deployments/baltics/
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
I think you underestimate the Germans, French and British, at least the British, we already have an 'Enhanced forward Presence' in the Baltics

https://www.army.mod.uk/deployments/baltics/
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That's quite possible. Brexit seemed a signal to the rest of world, but the Brits are quite capable of sending the BEF (or whatever you would call it these days) off to some faraway place. It would be a big gamble on Putin's part.
 
Minoosh said:
Pisses me off that this witch was clocked doing 119 in a 65 mph zone and was allowed to bargain down to doing 90 mph. Something seems ... off.

Fox News' Jeanine Pirro pleads guilty to 95 mph speeding ticket, down from 119 mph

That should have been charged as a felony IMO. It shows how much of a **** she gives about other people's safety. And her own, actually.
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Pirro's (now ex-) husband was convicted of tax fraud in 2000 and spent some time in prison. She was investigated for soliciting to illegally wiretap his boat when she thought he was cheating on her. He'd fathered a child with another woman during their marriage previously.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"The NFL National Anthem Debate is alive and well again - can’t believe it! Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 Commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!"

"I got severely criticized by the Fake News Media for being too nice to President Putin. In the Old Days they would call it Diplomacy. If I was loud & vicious, I would have been criticized for being too tough. Remember when they said I was too tough with Chairman Kim? Hypocrites!"
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Can't you just feel his pain, his sense of abandonment, of being hard done by? Isn't it wonderful? His pain is flowing in so quickly, it's almost hard to enjoy it all.
 
Stacyhs said:
Pirro's (now ex-) husband was convicted of tax fraud in 2000 and spent some time in prison. She was investigated for soliciting to illegally wiretap his boat when she thought he was cheating on her. He'd fathered a child with another woman during their marriage previously.
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The party of family values! The Best People!
 
Stacyhs said:
Pirro looked at Meghan McCain and said something about "hysterical" people who suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome and then pointed at Whoopie. It was extremely rude of Pirro. That is what set Whoopie off.
I've watched The View for years and one thing Whoopi is not is "hysterical". There is a reason she is the moderator and the others listen to her. She is the host who keeps things under control when they start to get heated. The View has had many conservatives on and none have been booted off the show because none behaved in the way Pirro did.

Pirro also called all the hosts an expletive in front of the audience. She didn't mention that in her "oh, poor me" whine to Hannity.
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Well, she's just a Trump supporter anyway so she doesn't matter. You don't have to treat her kind fairly. They aren't as good as the rest of us loyal Americans.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"The NFL National Anthem Debate is alive and well again - can’t believe it! Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 Commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!"

"I got severely criticized by the Fake News Media for being too nice to President Putin. In the Old Days they would call it Diplomacy. If I was loud & vicious, I would have been criticized for being too tough. Remember when they said I was too tough with Chairman Kim? Hypocrites!"
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I hate Trump like I have hated no other person in my lifetime.
The man is evil, pure and simple.
 
Gaslighting Pirro and Lou Dobbs, (Pirro sitting in for Hannity) are telling us how incredibly great of a POTUS Trump is and how the liberal media can't take it.

Merkel's being blackmailed by Putin. Trump was right to advise her to buy energy from "your friends".

Supposedly oil production in the US started under Trump, not Obama. :rolleyes:
 
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