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A mistake and repeats his ignorance of the shell theorem

We have an orbitsphere with nothing inside it. What are the gravitational, electric, and magnetic fields inside that orbitsphere? None. That is the calculation you refer to. That is self evident.

Now, add a proton to the centre of that orbitsphere. Presto, there is now gravitational, electric and magnetic fields inside the orbitsphere. Although, the gravitational aspect is minimal.
11 July 2018 markie: A mistake and repeats his ignorance of the shell theorem.

The mistake : Gravitation Inside A Uniform Hollow Sphere is a calculation of the gravitational forces, not fields, inside that shell.

Gravitation Inside A Uniform Hollow Sphere is actually a proof that any inverse square forces cancel out. This is regardless of the contents of the shell. Put a body of mass M inside the shell and the proof does not change. Ditto for a charge.

A charged mass inside a massive, charged shell experiences no gravitational or electromagnetic forces because the forces from the shell cancel out.
 
A blatant lie that Mills theory is not incompatible with "the physics of the atom ...

I think you misunderstand. JT was admitting that it is well known that QM and GR are incompatible. I agree that they are. I merely added that Mills' atomic physics and GR *are* fully compatible. (Although, Mills makes a modification to GR.)
Ok:
10 July 2018 markie: A lie that JeanTate's post states that QM and GR are not incompatible with Mills "theory".becomes
11 July 2018 markie: A blatant lie that Mills theory is not incompatible with "the physics of the atom and the physics of GR"

It is the physics of the atom and GR that I have been using in my analysis of his book.
The physics of the atom is what shows that Mills wrote an ignorant, deluded and lying book :eye-poppi.
The physics of GR is what shows that Mills wrote an ignorant, deluded and lying book :eye-poppi.
 
Tiny ignorance GR + a QM and "adjustable parameters" fantasies

GR is GR. Unlike GR, QM morphs according to the times. Like the Borg, it assimilates and changes according to what experiments reveal. It does this by adding more adjustable parameters or adjusting it's adjustable parameters. How many does it have now? 26 or so iirc.
11 July 2018 markie: Tiny ignorance GR + a QM and "morphs according to the times", "adjustable parameters" fantasies

The small ignorance is that GR has "morphed according to the times" a tiny bit. GR started with a cosmological constant. For decades it was set to zero. The observation of dark energy has put the cosmological constant back into GR.

QM was extended, i.e. morphed, and that was a good thing :eye-poppi!
Start with the non-relativistic Schrodinger equation. Relativity was included to get Dirac's equation and a theory of real electrons. Treatment of many bodies resulted in second quantization. etc.

QM does not have adjustable parameters.
QM solutions can have parameters. The Standard Model of particle physics has 19 parameters that need to be experimentally measured, i.e. are only "adjusted" to match the real world.
 
That proton radius puzzle is what I'm referring to.
Then you understand that it is a lie that this is a problem with QM?
A 5% experimental discrepancy between a experimentally measured proton radius using 2 different techniques is not a problem with QM.

It may be a problem with the new experiments.
It may be a problem with the old experiments.
It may be new physics that appeared when using muons.
 
The small ignorance is that GR has "morphed according to the times" a tiny bit. GR started with a cosmological constant. For decades it was set to zero. The observation of dark energy has put the cosmological constant back into GR.

Slight correction GR was first presented in 1915, the cosmological constant was added in 1917. It did not start with it being present in the formulation.

(As an aside: Notice how this correction can be stated without calling someone ignorant or a liar.

GR has most certainly "morphed according to the times" and there is nothing wrong with that as new observations naturally lead to adjustments in our understanding and theories. There are many known problems with GR, QM, the Standard Model, all the variations of these theories, and Mills theory too. It should be possible to discuss the merits and failures of each without resorting to name calling and insults )
 
Slight correction GR was first presented in 1915, the cosmological constant was added in 1917. It did not start with it being present in the formulation.

(As an aside: Notice how this correction can be stated without calling someone ignorant or a liar.

GR has most certainly "morphed according to the times" and there is nothing wrong with that as new observations naturally lead to adjustments in our understanding and theories. There are many known problems with GR, QM, the Standard Model, all the variations of these theories, and Mills theory too. It should be possible to discuss the merits and failures of each without resorting to name calling and insults )

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Slight correction GR was first presented in 1915, the cosmological constant was added in 1917. It did not start with it being present in the formulation.

(As an aside: Notice how this correction can be stated without calling someone ignorant or a liar.

GR has most certainly "morphed according to the times" and there is nothing wrong with that as new observations naturally lead to adjustments in our understanding and theories. There are many known problems with GR, QM, the Standard Model, all the variations of these theories, and Mills theory too. It should be possible to discuss the merits and failures of each without resorting to name calling and insults )


How has GR itself morphed? There are new ways to solve or approximate the very difficult-to-solve equations, and there are new applications of GR to cosmological problems, but GR itself remains GR, a very beautiful result.
 
How has GR itself morphed? There are new ways to solve or approximate the very difficult-to-solve equations, and there are new applications of GR to cosmological problems, but GR itself remains GR, a very beautiful result.

I agree. Well said. The word "morphed" would be far more appropriate for QM
 
FYI, Mills' model has mass and charge move along great circle loops of current. In addition, each loop is sweeping out a space on the orbitsphere, moving at right angles to the direction of the current flowing in the loop iirc. So, there is lots of movement going on. From this we get electron spin and magnetic moment of the electron.


That sure sounds like a lot of nonsense. You're talking (in the cast of atomic hydrogen) of a single electron supposedly forming a single "orbitsphere." So what are these multitudes of simultaneously moving charged masses? What is the mass and charge of the looping subelectronic moieties? How many of them make up one electron? What keeps the number of these particles per electron constant, so that their change and mass sum to a constant mass and consistent unit electric charge in all physical interactions? Why does measurement of the position of the negative charge associated with a hydrogen atom invariably yield one single point location (many orders of magnitude smaller than the orbital or "orbitsphere")?
 
(As an aside: Notice how this correction can be stated without calling someone ignorant or a liar.

It helps that the person you are correcting isn't ignorant or a liar.

But this thread is about a person that appears to be running an intentional scam. It's important to point out that he is spreading misinformation, and also important that it appears to be intentional (easily faked youtube videos, allusions to papers and evidence that never come, scrubbing of the record from his website).

The last thing we'd want is for this thread to look like a polite discussion about an idea being taken seriously. That's probably exactly what the scammer wants, an appearance of legitimacy.
 
markie, UncertainH: I know this OT, but may I ask what you consider to be the major QM/QFT morphs?

Other than these two: the incorporation of special relativity, and the (ongoing, even today) work to understand the mathematical foundations.
 
Slight correction GR was first presented in 1915, the cosmological constant was added in 1917. It did not start with it being present in the formulation.
Thank you for the correction, UncertainH. It does emphasize the irrelevant fact that GR "morphed".

As an aside: Notice that I was being charitable with "small ignorance".
The real ignorance is that all scientific theories change with time because that is part of the definition of science. Theories are changed as knowledge is gained or new ways to express them are found. For example, in 1915, the Einstein–Hilbert action was proposed - GR in a "morphed" form.
markie has a track record of pots with ignorance about basic physics (e.g. his current display abut the shell theorem) and some posts with lies. He also blindly supports the ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book some of which are obvious to anyone who can read Wikipedia!
62 items of ignorance and some lies from markie from his blind faith in Mills.

Statements of fact are not insults. The fact is that that markie writes ignorance. I record his ignorance, he does not address them with evidence, and it is up to readers to decide whether that makes him ignorant. The fact is that markie writes lies. I record his lies, he does not address them with evidence, and it is up to readers to decide whether that makes him a liar.
 
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That is not a source about 26 adjustable parameters in QM.
It is the well known fact that the Standard Model of particle physics has parameters that are fixed by measuring them. The Wikipedia article lists 19 parameters because the fine structure constant in the article is encoded in the SU(2) and U(1) parameters. Extensions to the model extend the list up to 26 parameters.

The Standard Model is an application of QM, not QM itself.
 
That sure sounds like a lot of nonsense. You're talking (in the cast of atomic hydrogen) of a single electron supposedly forming a single "orbitsphere." So what are these multitudes of simultaneously moving charged masses? What is the mass and charge of the looping subelectronic moieties? How many of them make up one electron? What keeps the number of these particles per electron constant, so that their change and mass sum to a constant mass and consistent unit electric charge in all physical interactions? Why does measurement of the position of the negative charge associated with a hydrogen atom invariably yield one single point location (many orders of magnitude smaller than the orbital or "orbitsphere")?


An orbitsphere is not composed of smaller subcomponents. It is a whole, indivisible unit. As I understand it, the reason continuous loops of mass-charge are depicted at all is to to help visualize and mathematically quantify the coordinated motions of the unified 2D orbitsphere membrane.

Electron orbitals are not points, they are distributed surface areas of of mass and charge as per Mills' theory. In QM they are 3D probability clouds of finding a point charge, never a single point charge itself.

Now *free* electrons are found to be point - like. Mills' theory has it approximating a point, but it is a spinning disk of charge with the charge concentrated in the centre and falling off quickly to the edge which is the deBroglie radius. See Chapter 3 (The Electron in Free Space) of Mills' GUTCP for more details if you want.
 
markie, UncertainH: I know this OT, but may I ask what you consider to be the major QM/QFT morphs?

Other than these two: the incorporation of special relativity, and the (ongoing, even today) work to understand the mathematical foundations.


You may find this to be a good timeline:
1900 - 1962: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/quantumt.html
1964 - present: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/smt.html

It's a mix of theoretical and experimental advances.

Can't help but notice the entry for 1995:

"After eighteen years of searching at many accelerators, the CDF and D0 experiments at Fermilab discover the top quark at the unexpected mass of 175 GeV. No one understands why the mass is so different from the other five quarks."

From Mills 2016 GUTCP page 1514

In 1995, Mills published the GUTCP prediction [101] that the expansion of the Universe was accelerating from the same equations that correctly predicted the mass of the top quark before it was measured.
 
You may find this to be a good timeline:
1900 - 1962: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/quantumt.html
1964 - present: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/smt.html

It's a mix of theoretical and experimental advances.

Can't help but notice the entry for 1995:

"After eighteen years of searching at many accelerators, the CDF and D0 experiments at Fermilab discover the top quark at the unexpected mass of 175 GeV. No one understands why the mass is so different from the other five quarks."

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Thanks.

What you posted is, mostly, about the Standard Model of particle physics (as we call it today), which is - as RC has already noted - an application of QFT, not QFT itself.

As the first link shows, a big “morph” was the addition of special relativity, and particularly the role of Dirac (RC has posted about this before too). I didn’t see any others.
 
You may find this to be a good timeline:

1900 - 1962: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/quantumt.html

1964 - present: http://www.particleadventure.org/other/history/smt.html



It's a mix of theoretical and experimental advances.



Can't help but notice the entry for 1995:



"After eighteen years of searching at many accelerators, the CDF and D0 experiments at Fermilab discover the top quark at the unexpected mass of 175 GeV. No one understands why the mass is so different from the other five quarks."



From Mills 2016 GUTCP page 1514



In 1995, Mills published the GUTCP prediction [101] that the expansion of the Universe was accelerating from the same equations that correctly predicted the mass of the top quark before it was measured.



It’s common for quacks and con artists to try and attach their con to legitimate endeavors. Thank you for this example of Mills trying to hitch his wagon to people with actual accomplishments.
 
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