The compromise is that the Speaker will decide on the terms of the "meaningful vote". Personally I think the Speaker is far more likely to side with the rebels than the Government on this.
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The compromise is that the Speaker will decide on the terms of the "meaningful vote". Personally I think the Speaker is far more likely to side with the rebels than the Government on this.
No. A less attractive home for illegal migrants is all that's required.
Or France could become a more attractive home for illegal migrants. Or a more attractive home for its residents if you want to stick with your own pejorative language
quadraginta
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"Residents" is a pejorative?
Must be one of those "separated by a common language" things.
Calling France "a more attractive home" is "pejorative"?
But you told us what the pejorative language was, and it wasn't that.
Or a more attractive home for its residents if you want to stick with your own pejorative language
I was only echoing back the phrase you used. And the language you used, in my opinion, was pejorative. What's so difficult to understand?
Well we don't need it, if there is something that works put in its place. Neither ceptimus nor anyone else that I can see has said that there should be no extradition procedures in place between the UK and the EU, and yet you assumed in your post that it was the EAW or nothing.
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Sure, but there is nothing in place currently and there is not likely to be anything in place for a while as a) other agreements will take priority, there will be lots of new agreements needed as we will have walked away from all agreements the EU have negoicated .
There is also the issue of the EU will want the ECJ to hear appeals and that will not be acceptable to the UK who are currently insisting that only UK courts can hear UK cases. We will therefore need the Uk courts to align (be subject to) the ECJ or alternatively we could have a very limited agreement, war criminals and the like.
Don't any other non-EU countries have systems that can act as a model for the future UK system once we've left the EU? I wouldn't expect any non-EU country to allow the ECJ to have supremacy over its own courts.
No doubt there are, and those extradition relationships took years to negotiate and put in place. Brexit is now around 9 months away.
It is frankly astonishing that anyone could think otherwise.
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There is not a single non-EU country that has an extradition treaty with the EU. Extradition with non-EU countries is left to the sovereign states that make up the EU.
There's also not a single non-EU country that is part of the EAW system. No doubt as a result of ECJ supremecy in this area.
And that is something that the UK would have to accept if the EU would even consider a third country taking part in the EAW.
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I wouldn't expect the EU to allow the UK courts to have supremacy over its own court.
It is frankly astonishing that anyone could think otherwise.
We appear to have a stalemate.
[Brexiteer] Well the answer is simple as it is in so many of these so-called contentious issues - the EU should allow UK courts to have supremacy over its own court because, let's face it, foreigners aren't really to be trusted and the only true justice is proper British justice - they'll thank us in the end.
It's the same with the brouhaha over customs and trade. As soon as the EU wakes up it will realise that the UK should be allowed tariff-free access to the EU and UK citizens should be allowed to continue to live in the EU as currently without any of that tiresome reciprocity or having to adhere to inconvenient EU rules and regulations. Of course it won't matter so much because the trade deals we will have with the rest of the world will be so fabulous that we'll hardly trade with the EU at all. [/Brexiteer]
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There will need to be a separate extradition treaty with each of the EU states. Just like the UK has separate treaties with non EU states.
I wonder how any treaties will go down. Whenever the USA try to extradite someone the Tabloids blow up a storm and demand the govt intervene to block it.
Can you imagine the rage from the tabloids when Germany or France try to extradite a Brit?
I wonder how any treaties will go down. Whenever the USA try to extradite someone the Tabloids blow up a storm and demand the govt intervene to block it.
Can you imagine the rage from the tabloids when Germany or France try to extradite a Brit?
How does Brexit have an impact on illegal immigration?
Ridiculous nonsense. I'm not aware that any Brexiteer has ever said such things. The EU can, of course, do whatever it thinks is best for the EU, but it shouldn't expect to have any laws or legal bodies that rule over countries outside the EU.
And the same goes, of course, for the future UK, or any other independent country or group of countries.
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