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The Trump Presidency VII

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Appanretly the "Tent City" proposal and the separation of Famalies is actually causing a little push back from some Republicans in Congress. It will be short lived, however, once the Base is mobilized and the congressman are reminded about what happens to people who defy Fearless Leader. The gutless,cowardly,pitiful way the Congress is rolling over and playing dead for Trump will not be regarded kindly by Historians. Probalby will be competing for the Congresses from 1856 to 1860 as being the worst and most damaging in US History.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
No it's not if you aren't in the military



Trump isn't in the military. Why did he salute a foreign officer?
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A long time military officer opined on this on CNN, tempering Wolf's enthusiasm over the faux pas.

Though, admittedly, even members of the military may differ on this.

I do recall videos of officers of many different nations saluting officers of other nations in WWII. Officers can show respect for fellow officers, even of enemy forces.

But hardly my area of expertise. Open to any new information from unbiased sources with no axe to grind.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
A long time military officer opined on this on CNN, tempering Wolf's enthusiasm over the faux pas.

Though, admittedly, even members of the military may differ on this.

I do recall videos of officers of many different nations saluting officers of other nations in WWII. Officers can show respect for fellow officers, even of enemy forces.

But hardly my area of expertise. Open to any new information from unbiased sources with no axe to grind.
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The salute is a non issue.
Amazed people are focusing on this when Trump fawning praise of Dear Leader is a LOT more obnoxious....
 
acbytesla said:
No it isn't customary for a head of state to salute a general of your own nation let alone that of another.
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CNN reported that it was Reagan that began the custom of saluting officers, and its carried forward since.

Yes, the president is a civilian, but as Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces its hard for me to get worked up about this new custom.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweets

"The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!..."

"....Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle."
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Someone should let him know who Barbara Underwood is.
 
The salute issue can have relevance because of his previous outrage over proper observation of certain military (but not really) rituals performed at sporting events.

It joins a long list of foul-ups where he puts on a show that misses the mark, and then blunders the real thing to boot.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
CNN reported that it was Reagan that began the custom of saluting officers, and its carried forward since.

Yes, the president is a civilian, but as Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces its hard for me to get worked up about this new custom.
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I'm not worked up about it. These are the kind of things the news media or partisans sometimes get obsessed over. That Trump tried to pretend that the summit was a monumental success is another. Trump got nothing and seemed to suggest the war games wouldn't continue. Kim never said anything he hasn't said before and nothing in writing was produced promising denuclearization.

Any salesman worth his salt knows there is no sale without paperwork.
 
The drills cancellation (haven't looked today, last I heard the Pentagon hadn't heard official change orders) is the big "wuuhhhh?" for the U.S. and SE Asian-Pacific region.

Units not practicing under expected doctrine become not only less of an asset, but potential liabilities. Add in complications of multinational cooperation and it's a recipe for disaster. What does this do for unit cohesion, readiness, and morale? What does this say to our regional allies?

What does this say to any dictator with a U.S. base nearby?

Answer: "I need to start a nuke program..."
 
Reporting on the children detention centers, there are presidential murals:

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) blasted a migrant children's facility on Thursday for depicting a mural of President Trump, calling the image "Orwellian propaganda."

Menendez was referring to a Brownsville, Texas, facility that currently holds more than 1,400 migrant boys between the ages of 10 and 17.

“These children were torn from their mothers and shuttled into a de-facto prison, only to be greeted by a triumphant mural of the man who put them there,” Menendez tweeted Thursday. “This Orwellian propaganda is frightening.”

The Democratic senator’s remarks come less than a day after an MSNBC reporter shared a photo of the mural while touring the center.The mural, located near the facility's entrance, depicts Trump in front of an American flag flying atop the White House with the words "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war," a quote taken from Trump's co-authored book, "The Art of the Deal." The quote appears in English and Spanish.

The quote, as Quartz pointed out, references evicting tenants in the book's original context.
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Linky.

There are murals of other presidents, including Obama, with quotes about immigration, but it is rather bizarre.

Onto the actual conditions:

Mr Soboroff, one of the first reporters allowed to tour Casa Padre after the zero-tolerance policy was introduced, said most children slept five to a room in dormitories designed only for four.

The government has allowed the centre, a converted supermarket run by private firm Southwest Key, to exceed that limit because of overcrowding.

“Kids here get only two hours a day to be outside in fresh air,” Mr Soboroff said. “One hour of structured time. One hour of free time. The rest of the day is spent inside a former Walmart.”

He added: “I have been inside a federal prison and county jails. This place is called a shelter but these kids are incarcerated.

“No cells and no cages, and they get to go to classes about American history and watch [Disney film] Moana, but they’re in custody.”
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Linky.
 
To me the thing about the salute is this: It was a set-up. It was a propaganda trap and he walked right into it.

The immigration thing bothers me more, on a gut level. All Sanders had to do is say she wasn't going to speak for the attorney general. But just like Trump and Sessions, she cannot resist getting a dig in.
 
Minoosh said:
To me the thing about the salute is this: It was a set-up. It was a propaganda trap and he walked right into it.

The immigration thing bothers me more, on a gut level. All Sanders had to do is say she wasn't going to speak for the attorney general. But just like Trump and Sessions, she cannot resist getting a dig in.
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Do you know how arrogant and condescending these press people are? She is mercilessly attack by these low life’s, you ought to be cheering her on!
 
Delphic Oracle said:
The drills cancellation (haven't looked today, last I heard the Pentagon hadn't heard official change orders) is the big "wuuhhhh?" for the U.S. and SE Asian-Pacific region.

Units not practicing under expected doctrine become not only less of an asset, but potential liabilities. Add in complications of multinational cooperation and it's a recipe for disaster. What does this do for unit cohesion, readiness, and morale? What does this say to our regional allies?

What does this say to any dictator with a U.S. base nearby?

Answer: "I need to start a nuke program..."
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It's a Chamberlain style move. Not good. The drills in reality didn't threaten anything, they were always about preparedness. Which we won't have.
 
logger said:
Do you know how arrogant and condescending these press people are? She is mercilessly attack by these low life’s, you ought to be cheering her on!
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All she had to do was say she didn't speak for Sessions. Easy, and the literal truth.
 
logger said:
Do you know how arrogant and condescending these press people are? She is mercilessly attack by these low life’s, you ought to be cheering her on!
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Oh, give it a rest. She gets in her digs, too, and she lies every time she steps up to the podium. If they are "low lifes", she's pond scum. :rolleyes:
 
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