MicahJava
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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge
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It's a 2 inch difference, on a decimated head and a shattered skull, in the middle of a rushed autopsy where none of the pathologists took an actual measurement of the head wound. It means nothing.
RoboTimbo
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he could easily follow it by reading the thread that he alleged he had done in order to proclaim being 'well read on the subject'.
It's nothing. Artifacting.
Hans
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You're being mean. They don't want to come up with a viable alternative theory they just want to bad mouth the 'orthodox'.
HSienzant
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I asked you to sort out your differences with Manifesto.
Manifesto agrees with this?
Hank
HSienzant
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I didn't have to read far to spot the first error:
"To those who support the lone gunman theory, the shot came from behind — the supposed lair of Lee Harvey Oswald. But Kennedy was knocked backward, suggesting he was hit from the front. Which would mean Oswald did not fire that bullet."
Kennedy was knocked forward by 2 - 3 inches between the last frame before the bullet impact (312), and the first frame after the bullet impact (313). The bullet impacted sometime between the two frames - call it 312.5 for short.
If there's any trick, it's by Millicent Cranor mis-stating the evidence.
What happens after frame 313 cannot be because of the bullet. The bullet has already left the head by frame 313 and the reversal of motion thereafter cannot be caused by that bullet.
Hank
indeed. I haven't been able leave my street since both ends and a curb around a corner are painted yellow. I don't want to get picked off.
Imagine how many other neighborhoods across the US have the same problem.
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smartcooky
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You believe this only because you do not understand the Terminal Ballistics involved.
Look at this photo...
... and then watch this gif
I've scaled them (look at the first half - left side - of the ballistics gel block) to make it easier for you to spot the clue that shows why you are wrong?
ETA: If you can't work it out, there's no shame in that. Just ask and I'll explain it to you.
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HSienzant
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indeed. I haven't been able leave me street since both ends and a curb around a corner are painted yellow. I don't want to get picked off.
Imagine how many other neighborhoods across the US have the same problem.
I have one to the left side of my house. I will have to always turn right now to avoid the potential shooting gallery up the block.
Hank
MicahJava
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Sorry, there was no exit wound on the President's face, which is where your diagram shows an exit. Even if you wanted to say it was in the forehead above right eye, that's upwards from the EOP at z312.
[IMGw=500]https://i.imgur.com/3h0klXO.jpg[/IMGw]
Fail. And try even your diagram without severely damaging the cerebellum or depositing fragments in the base of the head.
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Cite ONE thing I have made up, Hans.
If not, I’ll start listing all the lies you have been cought pants down telling.
RoboTimbo
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Do you see any exit wounds in the Z film?
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JayUtah
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As hard as you're trying to make this about someone else, the problem still remains that you have laid no foundation for your claims that the U.S. intelligence community behaves in the way you claim, and has the capabilities, methods, and practices you claim. Since we've established you have no applicable personal experience, I've asked you substantiate your claims from some other acceptable basis. Can you do that?
smartcooky
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Translation: You don't understand terminal ballistics
Fine, would you like me to explain it to you?
ETA;
Perhaps looking at these two together will help you to understand
As always, if you still don't understand, I can explain it to you.
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Axxman300
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It's lame enough that he probably wrote it.
He can't read the latest real scientific work on the subject either:
https://www.heliyon.com/article/e00603
HSienzant
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It's anatomically upwards, but it's downward based on the position of JFK's head at the time of the head shot.
Manifesto disagrees with you about the deflection. He says bullets can deflect 'to a considerable degree'.
Can I explain why you two disagree?
Your conspiracy theory has the bullet entering at the EOP. If a bullet could deflect upward, you don't have an argument for what the Z-film shows. So you argue bullets can't deflect.
Manifesto has a different theory he's pushing. In his theory, the bullet enters JFK's head above and to the right of the right ear, at approximately a 90 degree angle to the head. But he needs it to blow out the back of the head where you claim an entry wound was, so he needs it to deflect about 90 degrees to exit the back of the head. So he argues bullets can deflect to a considerable degree.
Neither of you has cited anything from a ballistics source to support your mutually exclusive claims. As a CT, you don't need that. All you need is to be able to support your own conspiracy claims, and you each do that by making up whatever argument you need to support your conspiracy theory.
So you end up with 'bullets can't deflect' to keep your theory alive and Manifesto ends up 'bullets can deflect considerably' to keep his alive.
Not because any evidence led you to those conclusions. Because you need those conclusions to be true to keep your two different conspiracy theories alive.
Hank
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Haha, already noticed and read, but thanks anyways. Yes, this Nalli guy is buying Alvarez fraudelent jet recoil-effect adorning it with lots of fancy matemathicuolusly scientific shill equations.
Junk science built upon junk science = Mighty Church.
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