Cont: The Trump Presidency VI

[logger]

It's opinion that criticising black people for peacefully protesting racism is racist?

He criticised football players, never mentioned color. Black football players criticised them too. See, it’s dishonest to say he criticised “black” players, when he didn’t, you’re adding in the race part, to me that is racist.

It's opinion that having a policy of not renting to black people is racist?

I seriously doubt Trump himself was behind that. That to is dishonest to Sadler him with it.

It's opinion that endorsing and supporting white supremacists including the KKK is racist?

Also dishonest to explain it that way. He was not supporting white supremacists or the KKK, that is just ridiculous. He was supporting some of the people there that were for not hiding their history.

I wonder if you'd think that if Hillary Clinton did the same things?

The mentor of the predator in chief was William Fulbright, a segregationist. Hillary was rumoured to say the n-word often. Plenty to go around.

The Dems had an actual Ku Klux Klan Senator, but he spent his life apologising.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

He criticised football players, never mentioned color. Black football players criticised them too. See, it’s dishonest to say he criticised “black” players, when he didn’t, you’re adding in the race part, to me that is racist.

I seriously doubt Trump himself was behind that. That to is dishonest to Sadler him with it.

Your contention is that rather than instituting a racist policy, he simply had no idea what was happening in the company that he owned? I suppose that just makes him incompetent rather than a bigot. Yay for him!

Also dishonest to explain it that way. He was not supporting white supremacists or the KKK, that is just ridiculous. He was supporting some of the people there that were for not hiding their history.

The mentor of the predator in chief was William Fulbright, a segregationist. Hillary was rumoured to say the n-word often. Plenty to go around.

And you condemn both equally? Because here you are defending Trump and vilifying Clinton.

 

[BobTheCoward]

He criticised football players, never mentioned color. Black football players criticised them too. See, it’s dishonest to say he criticised “black” players, when he didn’t, you’re adding in the race part, to me that is racist.

I seriously doubt Trump himself was behind that. That to is dishonest to Sadler him with it.


Also dishonest to explain it that way. He was not supporting white supremacists or the KKK, that is just ridiculous. He was supporting some of the people there that were for not hiding their history.

It is amazing his ability to find himself on the side of racists through...

Ignorance of the debate
Poor management
Trying to make a finer point and failing

...while being not a racist himself. What incredible luck.

 

[logger]

Your contention is that rather than instituting a racist policy, he simply had no idea what was happening in the company that he owned? I suppose that just makes him incompetent rather than a bigot. Yay for him!

Obviously not a pattern in his company, but the dishonest left slaps the label on him. It’s just ridiculous!

And you condemn both equally? Because here you are defending Trump and vilifying Clinton.

I think Clintons is much worse. Can you imagine Trump have a segregationist racist mentor.

 

[logger]

It is amazing his ability to find himself on the side of racists through...

Ignorance of the debate
Poor management
Trying to make a finer point and failing

.

How about a ridiculous assertion? Him being on the side of racists just isn’t reality.

 

[BobTheCoward]

How about a ridiculous assertion? Him being on the side of racists just isn’t reality.

Racists oppose the football protests, support stopping black people from living in certain neighborhoods, and are pro Confederacy. He was aligned with them on all three issues.

 

[logger]

Racists oppose the football protests, support stopping black people from living in certain neighborhoods, and are pro Confederacy. He was aligned with them on all three issues.

There were black people who weren’t supporting the football protest. Were they racist too?

Support black people from living in certain neighbourhoods? Wow, I mentioned how your side would place the racist label on Trump for that, even though it was a one off. Trump pro confederacy? Thanks for the laugh of the week Bob. That just isn’t reality.

 

[BobTheCoward]

There were black people who weren’t supporting the football protest. Were they racist too?

Support black people from living in certain neighbourhoods? Wow, I mentioned how your side would place the racist label on Trump for that, even though it was a one off. Trump pro confederacy? Thanks for the laugh of the week Bob. That just isn’t reality.

I didn't sauly racist. I said aligned with racists. Yes, sometimes black people are aligned with racists. As a serious free speech idealogue, I am on occasion aligned with racists.

He compared Robert e Lee and Stonewall Jackson to Washington and Jefferson. That is a pro Confederacy position.

 

[logger]

I didn't sauly racist. I said aligned with racists. Yes, sometimes black people are aligned with racists. As a serious free speech idealogue, I am on occasion aligned with racists.

Lol

He compared Robert e Lee and Stonewall Jackson to Washington and Jefferson. That is a pro Confederacy position.

Both were great men Bob. And amazingly that does not make me pro conferacy.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Lol


Both were great men Bob. And amazingly that does not make me pro conferacy.

You seem to have a problem with the concept of alignment.

They simply cannot be great men and aligned with that cause. The values you support in your time and place help define your greatness for the rest of time.

Great men don't fight for southern succession.

 

[Venom]

It's hard to take Trump seriously on anything at this point. I do think he is sincere half the time, but the other half he spends making questionable or downright false statements. And when he brags about his black or Mexican friends in response to accusations of racism, it just doesn't ring true.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Is anyone watching Michelle Wolf at the White House Correspondents Dinner?

Not a Trump fan, but this is despicable - and worse, not very funny. Just mean.

 

[dudalb]

Does he realise that if it went on the popular vote he wouldn't be President?

First think I thought when I saw that.....

 

[logger]

You seem to have a problem with the concept of alignment.

They simply cannot be great men and aligned with that cause. The values you support in your time and place help define your greatness for the rest of time.

Great men don't fight for southern succession.

Disagree, it wasn’t just about what your side tells you.

 

[logger]

Is anyone watching Michelle Wolf at the White House Correspondents Dinner?

Not a Trump fan, but this is despicable - and worse, not very funny. Just mean.

And he chose a campaign rally!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Is anyone watching Michelle Wolf at the White House Correspondents Dinner?

Not a Trump fan, but this is despicable - and worse, not very funny. Just mean.

It was hilarious.

Sorry you didn't get the jokes. I mean that.

 

[ShadowSot]

Logger, were you OK with Trump's son meeting with a Kremlin-backed lawyer to get dirt on Clinton? Those were his own words in his own emails. That can't have sat right with you. Even Bannon couldn't tolerate it.

Yeah, but Bannon is just a Rino now.

 

[newyorkguy]

That was yesterday on the US east coast - but yep, that's the reference. And I saw people saying "Well, his schedule as president..."

Nah. The same guy who is helping to gut protections with Americans with disabilities, and who did this to entertain a crowd?

FTFY

Btw if you view the video, Trump was attacking a reporter whom, Trump claimed, had written a news story in September 2001, describing thousands of people in Jersey City celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers (which was visible from parts of Jersey City). This was after Trump was labeled a liar for saying the following:

Trump, Nov. 21, 2015: Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering. So something’s going on. We’ve got to find out what it is.

A day later, on ABC’s “This Week,” Trump stuck to that story: “It did happen. I saw it. … It was on television. I saw it." Link

When Trump was asked to verify his claim, Trump changed his story and instead referred to a written news report he had read in the Washington Post. Serge Kovaleski co-wrote the story with reporter Fredrick Kunkle for the Washington Post. Kovaleski responded: “I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” Kovaleski, who now works for the New York Times, told the Fact Checker. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember,” Kovaleski said. His former partner, Fredrick Kunkle, recalled the story more clearly:

Fredrick Kunkle, the other author of the Post story, told the Fact Checker that he could never confirm the reports of celebrations. “I specifically visited the Jersey City building and neighborhood where the celebrations were purported to have happened. But I could never verify that report,” Kunkle said.

Trump then accused of Serge Kovaleski of "changing his story," in order to avoid backing Trump up. Senator Weiker was right. The Dunce is a dirtbag.

 

[quadraginta]

It seems puzzling that he could develop a trait where our Our British Cousins are concerned which he is so obviously and massively lacking in here in the States.

Perhaps they are a good influence on him?

What kind of comic-book psychopath would it take to be a bad influence on Trump?

You're looking at it wrong way 'round.

There are probably some good people there. possibly even some competent ones (in spite of the evidence Brexit offers).

But even Britain's very best would not reach the level of angelic, superhuman powers needed to make Trump "thick skinned" about anything.

Anywhere.

Ever.


And they need not feel bad about it either. It isn't possible for anyone. The heat death of the universe would happen before that would.

 

[Mumbles]

Lol

It’s opinion that it’s racist. Do I really have to explain that?

Personally, I don't care about your explanation. The fact is, disparate impacts were, in many cases, built into everything I wrote, whether Trump is actively trying to harm black communities (which in many cases he obviously is) or not. A person who is actually interested in helping black communities would at least attempt to mitigate these impacts.

And I'll note that nobody came up with a single example of him even attempting to help any non-white community - and again, simply being around as unemployment continues a long decline that he has nothing to do with doesn't count.