Cont: The Trump Presidency VI

[Brainiac]

Turning a blind eye to evidence of criminal activity is not acting "like an adult".

Acting upon evidence uncovered during an investigation is called "doing your job".

I disagree.

Why do you disagree?

When Ken Starr was conducting his investigation into Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, he found evidence that Bill Clinton had perjured himself and obstructed justice during the investigation of his affair with Monica Lewinsky. This directly resulted in Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Since Ken Starr found no evidence of criminal conduct in either the Whitewater investigation or the Vince Foster investigation, in order to be logically consistent, your position must be that Ken Starr acted childishly when he pursued the perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Bill Clinton.

Should Ken Starr should have "acted like an adult" and accepted his loss? If not, why not?

 

[chrispy]

Wow, insane rant from The PDJT on Fox & Friends today. Even the panelists looked a bit alarmed.

Yeah. Even by Trump standards that was something...

 

[BobTheCoward]

Why do you disagree?

When Ken Starr was conducting his investigation into Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, he found evidence that Bill Clinton had perjured himself and obstructed justice during the investigation of his affair with Monica Lewinsky. This directly resulted in Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Since Ken Starr found no evidence of criminal conduct in either the Whitewater investigation or the Vince Foster investigation, in order to be logically consistent, your position must be that Ken Starr acted childishly when he pursued the perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Bill Clinton.

Should Ken Starr should have "acted like an adult" and accepted his loss? If not, why not?

I don't recall Ken starr or Mueller asserting the president did something with regards to whitewater/russa. This is about the people who have done that.

 

[Hellbound]

Yeah. Even by Trump standards that was something...

Trump?
Standards?

I know what the words mean, but when they're put together this way I can't make sense of them...

 

[chrispy]

Trump?
Standards?

I know what the words mean, but when they're put together this way I can't make sense of them...

Touché

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/989482053128392705

Trump: “Our Justice Department, which I try to stay away from, but pretty soon I won’t.”

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

And, with all the talk of improper FISA warrants...

More FISA warrants were turned down in Trump's first year of office than in the previous 40 years combined

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Wow, insane rant from The PDJT on Fox & Friends today. Even the panelists looked a bit alarmed.

Watching that now.

I love the host's reactions and how they try to steer him back to the matters at hand...

...and not the size of his electoral victory!

At times, it looks as though they're totally zoning out.

Whole thing here: https://youtu.be/im5TeOD4rL0

 

[Stacko]

Wow, insane rant from The PDJT on Fox & Friends today. Even the panelists looked a bit alarmed.

The SDNY noticed:

SDNY tells court: "Trump, reportedly said on cable television this morning that Cohen performs 'a tiny, tiny little fraction' of his overall legal work." ​

 

[Cabbage]

Logger said intended, not meant. Big difference.

OK, I'll bite: How are they bigly different?

 

[Trebuchet]

Do you really believe that? I mean honestly, it's an extreme exaggeration, right? Certainly you cannot claim pols like Warren, Obama, Biden, Feinstein, and on and on and on "hate" their country.

I'd like a straight answer without any BS attached. Are you serious when you say, "The left hates this country..."

Of course he's serious. That's what the right wing "news" sources that provide ALL of his information have been saying for years.

 

[beren]

I didn't say it does. You don't have a license to be wrong if it isn't critical to your argument. You will be called out on it.

Then by all means demonstrate where I was wrong.
You have claimed it, but not demonstrated it.

 

[The Don]

The SDNY noticed:

SDNY tells court: "Trump, reportedly said on cable television this morning that Cohen performs 'a tiny, tiny little fraction' of his overall legal work." ​

I'm no sure whether the conclusion can be drawn that if Cohen only performs a tiny, tiny fraction of President Trump's overall legal work that the majority of the seized documents are not subject to privilege. It could be that 100% of Cohen's work is a tiny, tiny fraction of what President Trump needs - he might have had hundreds of lawyers on the books servicing his various companies and issuing his bullying lawsuits.

 

[Stacko]

I'm no sure whether the conclusion can be drawn that if Cohen only performs a tiny, tiny fraction of President Trump's overall legal work that the majority of the seized documents are not subject to privilege. It could be that 100% of Cohen's work is a tiny, tiny fraction of what President Trump needs - he might have had hundreds of lawyers on the books servicing his various companies and issuing his bullying lawsuits.

They're making the argument that Cohen isn't a lawyer; he's just a fixer. We've got two clients that all he did for them was make affairs go away and whatever he did for Hannity.

 

[The Don]

They're making the argument that Cohen isn't a lawyer; he's just a fixer. We've got two clients that all he did for them was make affairs go away and whatever he did for Hannity.

If they are, then why is the President's statement pertinent ? It doesn't matter what percentage of the President's overall legal work he does - so long as it is legal work. The President's statement makes no difference either way as far as I can see.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I'm no sure whether the conclusion can be drawn that if Cohen only performs a tiny, tiny fraction of President Trump's overall legal work that the majority of the seized documents are not subject to privilege. It could be that 100% of Cohen's work is a tiny, tiny fraction of what President Trump needs - he might have had hundreds of lawyers on the books servicing his various companies and issuing his bullying lawsuits.

I think that might be a misphrasing. What I've seen it reported as Trump having said (although bear in mind that I've not yet watched the video myself, and nor can I find a transcript), is that only a tiny, tiny fraction of Trump's interactions with Cohen were concerned with legal matters.

 

[ponderingturtle]

They're making the argument that Cohen isn't a lawyer; he's just a fixer. We've got two clients that all he did for them was make affairs go away and whatever he did for Hannity.

That even Hannity isn't really arguing was legal work for him. He implies it should be privileged but only says it is confidential.

 

[The Don]

I think that might be a misphrasing. What I've seen it reported as Trump having said (although bear in mind that I've not yet watched the video myself, and nor can I find a transcript), is that only a tiny, tiny fraction of Trump's interactions with Cohen were concerned with legal matters.

Ah, well that explains it then......

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

...
Should Ken Starr should have "acted like an adult" and accepted his loss?

Yes.

But I digress.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Yeah. Even by Trump standards that was something...

Stephanie Ruhle on MSNBC noted how bizarre it was they signaled to Trump to wrap it up. A POTUS interview should be so big you'd never do that.

A Trump interview doesn't rate higher than any other interview, apparently.