Show me. After that, Tell me why the majority of interviewed witnesses report shots from the knoll, if they clearly saw that nobody was there shooting.
Only 12% of witnesses think the shots came from the Knoll, and none of them saw a shooter, just thought they heard.
Maybe 12% constitutes a majority where you're from, but not in real life.
You love calling people names, don’t you. Why is that? Low self-esteem? You are trying to compensate?
When I was a CT-idiot low self-esteem played a part in my willingness to embrace stupidity over rational thinking. It is the one thing common to all CTists.
Not if it were a triangulation. Somebody had painted yellow marks on the south curb on Elm Street that day. Nobody knows why or to what purpose. The Umbrella man starts pumping his umbrella up and down during the shooting. Greer is slowing down the limo after the first shot and continue doing that until he sees JFK’s head taking a fatal blow, then he speeds away. Say that there were no fatal hit when it happened. A couple of seconds more and the limo would have completely stopped.
Sitting duck.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Man, that's an oldie but goody. Do you know Melancholy Baby?
Triangulation makes no sense since it requires three shooters, and there was only one.
Whenever you man-up and go to Dallas the first thing you will notice is that there is NO SHOT from the picket fence to the middle lane of Elm Street until until the instant of the head shot. Zero time to draw a bead. Second, the view from the Grassy Knoll was obstructed by the crowd standing on the sidewalk, and the shooter would have had to thread the bullet between the heads of the spectators to make the shot.
I know a lot of great shooter, none of them are that good.
The driver slowed to allow Clint Black to catch up.
They were focused on the president and saw nothing else, but they heard shots coming from ”behind” them. The area discussed are behind/to the right of them.
The TSBD was behind them. The picket fence was to their right.
Then there's the problem of a "professional hitman" setting up less than ten feet from witnesses. A lesser known fact is that Marilyn Sitzman, Zapruder's secretary who held his legs to steady him, said that there was a young African-American couple seated on a bench between them and the fence. She remembers them because they had small lunch sack and were drinking Coke, and after the last shot she remembers hear "a crash of glass" from where they had thrown their Coke bottles, and ran to the back.
Why would terrified people run in the direction of a shooter?
Sitzman says that the sound of breaking glass was louder than any of the three shots, and maintained until her death that no shots came from the Knoll.
Has it? What is the consensus? Everybody that heard shot from anywhere than TSBD actually heard echoes?
Yes, the plaza is a notorious echo chamber, and this has been documented with the latest technology.
There were ca 600 people on Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed. Ca 200 was interviewed by authorities. Ca half of them got asked on the positions of shooters and lots of identified witnesses standing closest to the event were ignored. There are also cases of manipulation of witnesses and accusations of falsifying reports.
Still, the majority pointed (and run up to) to the knoll as the source of the shots = conspiracy.
Again, 12% is not a majority. It's a dream number for the amount of alcohol in beer, but it's not a majority.
No it doesn’t. Every witness and testimony has to be evaluated on its own merits.
And yet you and other CTist disregard eye witness testimony you disagree with.
Absolutely a big problem, but that doesn’t lend itself to wholesale denunciation of ALL witness testimony as worthless. It says that you have to be careful when evaluating what is said, by whom and when it is said.
The evaluation comes when testimony is compared to the physical evidence, ballistic evidence, and the forensic evidence (which all points back to Oswald).
You missunderstood. I wonder WHAT STUDIES you are refering to.
Bullets...I'm talking BULLETS, not studies.
No, they found an entry wound in the back between the spine and the shoulder blade. Ca 4 cm deep.
It went through. 4 cm is how far one of them probed with a finger. Should be pointed out that even had they probed deeper it would have been inconclusive, at least that's what Humes has stated.
No, they did not track the bullet through the body. They asumed it exited from the throat where the Parkland doctors described a ”small, round, punctuated entrance wound” before they performed a tracheotomy in it.
It's there in the X-rays, and photos of the throat wound show abrasion collars which are distinct to exit wounds.
Correct. The entrance wound was positioned on the External Occipital Protuberance ca 4 cm from the midline and at the lowest part of the (right) back of the head. They also observed a trail of very small fragments in the x-rays of the lower part of the right brain.
Which is to be expected from a fracturing 6.5x52mm round.
They also found a big gaping wound in the right back of the head.
Nope. Never happened. Do you know the assassination is on film? No massive hole in the back of the head is visible.
Almost 50 surgeons, doctors, nurses, forensic pathologists, forensic photographers, x-ray-technicians, from three hospitals, Secret Service agents and FBI agents vs. a few x-rays and a few autopsy-photographs?
It’s your call.
Easy call to make. I go with the men who performed the autopsy. They laid hands on the man, they cut the man open, they sawed open his skull.
Those other 50 surgeons? Surgeons are not Pathologists. It takes 11 additional years of medical school to become one, and Pathologists exist because surgeons are not good at determining the cause of death. They're good at fixing people, but once they're dead they cannot be counted on to make medical determinations outside of their chosen medical specialty (I don't want a cardiac surgeon working on my testicles for good reason).
So it doesn't matter what 50 surgeons think, only what the three pathologists concluded in writing. Most pathologists who have reviewed the files in the National Archives agree with the original findings.
And who cares what FBI and Secert Service Agents think they saw?
How did they match and where is the secured chain of custody?
You'll have to look in the Warren Commission. The match was made by ballistics experts, and confirmed again during the HSCA.
No, it doesn’t. It shows a bullet hole in the back and a scissors cut in the tie/shirt.
Oh, so you've viewed it under a microscope like the FBI did? If not then you have no case.
Yes, and HSCA performed blind tests with subjects guessing where from a rifle shot originated. Everyone got it right everytime.
They needed a test pool of 600 people, they did not have that.
Of the actual witnesses to the assassination interviewed, 44% had no clue where the shots came from, 28% thought the shots came from the TSBD, 12% thought they came from the Grassy Knoll, and 2% felt that the shots came from different places.
Wrong. Facts are facts until proven otherwise. It’s really that simple.
And yet you have not proved Oswald's innocence.
