Stormy Daniels Sues the President

[The Big Dog]

They say it's a rule someone invented as a demonstration of Danth's Law.

Yeah, I guess some would say they are related, although I doubt anyone really believes that one is "declaring victory" when one repeatedly pollutes a thread with silly, ironic and distracting large emojis.

 

[quadraginta]

Bribes aren't malicious.

Perhaps "bribery" isn't the right word. However, if there was some sort of quid pro quo, in which Cohen said, "I will pay off Stormy in exchange for some post-election favor." that's bribery, or some other form of criminal corruption.

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More of a "pre-election" favor", but the principle is the same. He was still a politician whether he was running for office or in office.

 

[Segnosaur]

Bribes aren't malicious.

Perhaps "bribery" isn't the right word. However, if there was some sort of quid pro quo, in which Cohen said, "I will pay off Stormy in exchange for some post-election favor." that's bribery, or some other form of criminal corruption.

More of a "pre-election" favor", but the principle is the same. He was still a politician whether he was running for office or in office.

I still think "post election" is the proper term.

I.e. Cohen might have promised something to trump before the election (pay off Stormy), so that Trump will reciprocate and do something nice for Cohen post-election (after he's in office), like nominating him to the supreme court or adding his portrait to the $130,000 bill. (Those exist, don't they?)

 

[dudalb]

The Stormy Daniels scandal has become a major problem for Trump:it is not about him banging Stormy anymore but about bribery and probably other crimes. It's the cover up, rather then the original offense that gets you every time.

 

[William Parcher]

The Stormy Daniels scandal has become a major problem for Trump:it is not about him banging Stormy anymore but about bribery and probably other crimes. It's the cover up, rather then the original offense that gets you every time.

But the Cohen burglars were told to grab Access Hollywood stuff, not Stormy Daniels stuff.

If that matters. I don't know.

 

[LTC8K6]

But the Cohen burglars were told to grab Access Hollywood stuff, not Stormy Daniels stuff.

If that matters. I don't know.

The Stormy lawsuit mentions the Access Hollywood tape, I believe.

 

[William Parcher]

Will it take years for them to decide on bringing any charges, or will it be a hurry up right away thing?

 

[acbytesla]

$30,000 rumor? Tabloid paid for, spiked, salacious Trump tip

http://www.wral.com/-30-000-rumor-tabloid-paid-for-spiked-salacious-trump-tip/17481291/

Hard to tell if this was just a scam to collect $30K, or an actual story that was killed.

This practice of 'catching and killing' a story is pretty damn fascinating.

 

[acbytesla]

Will it take years for them to decide on bringing any charges, or will it be a hurry up right away thing?

So much depends on what they find. They'll want to build some airtight cases with serious penalties and then present what they got back to Cohen. Then simply ask Cohen to present to them a case why they shouldn't prosecute. That's what they did with Flynn. They may never charge him.

 

[LTC8K6]

This practice of 'catching and killing' a story is pretty damn fascinating.

It seems like the story would be worth a shedload of money to whoever breaks it, yet they settle for what seems like paltry sums.

 

[acbytesla]

It seems like the story would be worth a shedload of money to whoever breaks it, yet they settle for what seems like paltry sums.

Maybe because the Enquirer has a better idea of what it is worth and the doorman almost none and they knew that.

 

[Trebuchet]

Yes, it's very hard to believe any reasonable person would have continued to read all of The Big Dog's numerous explanations.

Or keep responding to them.

 

[CapelDodger]

I still think "post election" is the proper term.

I.e. Cohen might have promised something to trump before the election (pay off Stormy), so that Trump will reciprocate and do something nice for Cohen post-election (after he's in office), like nominating him to the supreme court or adding his portrait to the $130,000 bill. (Those exist, don't they?)

"On April 3, 2017, Cohen was appointed a National Deputy Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cohen_(lawyer)

Just saying.

 

[Dr. Keith]

If he can avoid tweeting about it, the fact that he went for the pin from the deep rough will drop off the front page in a couple of days.

I miss this optimism and word-smithery.

 

[acbytesla]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cohen_(lawyer)

Just saying.

Which isn't a government job.

 

[CapelDodger]

Which isn't a government job.

No, but it's an appointment Trump might be expected to have some influence on. "Something nice for Mike."

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Which isn't a government job.

A 'post-election favor' doesn't have to be a government job. And in this administration a government job might not be that much of a favor.

 

[CapelDodger]

$30,000 rumor? Tabloid paid for, spiked, salacious Trump tip

http://www.wral.com/-30-000-rumor-tabloid-paid-for-spiked-salacious-trump-tip/17481291/

Hard to tell if this was just a scam to collect $30K, or an actual story that was killed.

I'd like a job where I could pick up $30k just to stop saying "I've heard people saying ..."

 

[Bob001]

I'd like a job where I could pick up $30k just to stop saying "I've heard people saying ..."

That only works if what you "heard people saying" could be true. Otherwise, you'd get a letter from Michael Cohen saying "shut your **** mouth or else."

 

[acbytesla]

No, but it's an appointment Trump might be expected to have some influence on.

Yes, but that isn't illegal. It's NOT bribery. People do all kinds of things to land jobs that aren't illegal. Its only illegal if it's a quid pro quo on a government action and even that is hard to prove.