Darlie Routier

lionking said:
Sinsaint posts nothing but evidence from incredulity. But you fall for this time after time in thread after thread.

Just like MacDonald, a slam-dunk conviction.
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The public and the House of Commons, and even journalists, only understand straight lines. MacDonald is innocent and his case should have been thoroughly and properly INVESTIGATED. At least Sinsaint posts facts and details and not just opinions.
 
There was an item about the Darlie Routier case , probably an old repeat, on that American Unsolved mysteries show. It started with a very young and inexperienced local cop saying he thought Darlie did it from the first minute. Then a juror was interviewed who said he is now totally convinced Darlie is innocent after seeing the photos of her injuries which were withheld at the trial. Her slit throat was said to be about a tenth of a millimetre from a life threatening artery.

Darlie's mother spoke sense, and that Darlie was wrongly convicted on that silly string video. A couple of lawyers spoke on her behalf. Rather alarmingly it said that if she fails her next appeal an execution date will be arranged. It seemed to conclude that there had been a rapist in the area who used a sock to smother his victims and was never caught. Personally, I have always thought the husband had something to do with it, though I suppose there is no firm evidence.
 
Henri McPhee said:
There should have been a careful investigation in the Darlie Routier case.
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Even though it is coming from you, Henri, I can't believe you could make a statement like that. A careful investigation has gone on for years. Because you don't agree with them, does not mean one has not been done. If anything, her money grabbing mother has had more testing done, so Darlie has an advantage that many others don't.

She and she alone viciously stabbed her two little boys to death.
 
I posted a bit about the Darlie Routier case on Topix forum in 2007:

I just feel that there has never been a careful investigation into the Darlie Routier case. I think it was just like the Ramsey case where the local very inexperienced police just 'knew' Darlie did it in the first twenty minutes.
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http://www.topix.com/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/TLICFDFRINFJMJFDC/p2


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Henri McPhee said:
I posted a bit about the Darlie Routier case on Topix forum in 2007:



http://www.topix.com/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/TLICFDFRINFJMJFDC/p2


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Henri McPhee said:
There is some background information about the Darlie Routier case at this website:

https://soapboxie.com/government/Darlie-Routier
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Henri McPhee said:
The police are apt to jump to conclusions in some of these murder cases, like the Darlie Routier case. You assume nothing.
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Thank you, Henri. I am now convinced of her guilt.
 
Metullus said:
Thank you, Henri. I am now convinced of her guilt.
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I don't know if Henri gets the sarcasm. Darlie has had more chances for testing to try and prove her innocence then most prisoners, but they all come back pointing to who is guilty. Darlie murdered her children.
 
wasapi said:
I don't know if Henri gets the sarcasm. Darlie has had more chances for testing to try and prove her innocence then most prisoners, but they all come back pointing to who is guilty. Darlie murdered her children.
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I am pretty sure he does not get sarcasm.

And yes, she is as guilty as they come.
 
wasapi said:
I don't know if Henri gets the sarcasm. Darlie has had more chances for testing to try and prove her innocence then most prisoners, but they all come back pointing to who is guilty. Darlie murdered her children.
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This is new to me. It makes a self inflicted wound extremely unlikely. How do you address this?

Cut in Darlie's Neck
Saying the cut in her neck was 2mm of the carotid sheath but external to the carotid artery was what Darlie's operating surgeons reported, and that the necklace she had on blocked the cut from going deeper, showing the seriousness and unlikelihood that Darlie did or even could have done this herself.
 
It could also mean that she didn't take or failed anatomy; or maybe it wasn't offered at her High School.

It could also mean that once it hurt, she stopped cutting.

She's not the brightest crayon in the box.
 
Or it could mean she was planning to kill herself, too, but lost her nerve. I think the "'F' in anatomy" explanation is more likely, though. But it certainly isn't exculpatory, as her supporters like to pretend.
 
Maybe Jeffrey MacDonald pulled this stunt effectively, he was very bright, note.
Darlie was a dull crayon? OK, we can't have it both ways.
 
This makes no sense. JM was a doctor, so he was able to wound himself with no danger of serious injury. DR is not very bright, and presumably has no knowledge of anatomy, so it's perfectly reasonable that she wounded herself in a way that risked a potentially fatal injury. Further, you're ignoring the possibility of a suicide attempt.
 
SpitfireIX said:
This makes no sense. JM was a doctor, so he was able to wound himself with no danger of serious injury. DR is not very bright, and presumably has no knowledge of anatomy, so it's perfectly reasonable that she wounded herself in a way that risked a potentially fatal injury. Further, you're ignoring the possibility of a suicide attempt.
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The suicide attempt has not ever been mooted, and makes no sense. Either she was desperate for cash so killed her children for the insurance, or was in nihilistic mode in your dichotomy.
I buy neither, Sinsaint has answered all the crime scene data with proper analysis. Sinsaint is the guru here, go back thread and falsify her case, then watch Darlie swing.
 
Samson said:
The suicide attempt has not ever been mooted, and makes no sense. Either she was desperate for cash so killed her children for the insurance, or was in nihilistic mode in your dichotomy.
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That's a false dichotomy. It's also possible that she killed them for money, immediately felt overwhelming guilt and remorse, and in the moment made a halfhearted attempt to kill herself.

Samson said:
I buy neither, Sinsaint has answered all the crime scene data with proper analysis. Sinsaint is the guru here, go back thread and falsify her case, then watch Darlie swing.
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I'm not going to rehash the entire thread; I'm busy elsewhere, and frankly I'm not that interested in this case. I seldom post in T&E; I mainly lurk (except I refuse to read the Amanda Knox thread; it's degenerated into endless rounds of pointless argument). I just jumped in to point out that the claim that the fact DR came within 2 mm of death from a knife wound is somehow exculpatory is specious. And I stand by that.

ETA: And even if, arguendo, we rule out a suicide attempt, that doesn't eliminate the "'F' in anatomy" explanation.
 
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SpitfireIX said:
That's a false dichotomy. It's also possible that she killed them for money, immediately felt overwhelming guilt and remorse, and in the moment made a halfhearted attempt to kill herself.




I'm not going to rehash the entire thread; I'm busy elsewhere, and frankly I'm not that interested in this case. I seldom post in T&E; I mainly lurk (except I refuse to read the Amanda Knox thread; it's degenerated into endless rounds of pointless argument). I just jumped in to point out that the claim that the fact DR came within 2 mm of death from a knife wound is somehow exculpatory is specious. And I stand by that.

ETA: And even if, arguendo, we rule out a suicide attempt, that doesn't eliminate the "'F' in anatomy" explanation.
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An f would be a normal grade for most, I would scarcely deserve such a high score. Yet it would be a steep learning curve to acquire such knowledge. This is a major event in your life and times of Darlie. She is killing her children, so her husband doesn't notice, and then stabbing herself to stay alive. Without a telltale computer search, she could easily acquire knowledge of a safe place to appear victim of a failed knife attack, without requiring the fortuitous presence of a necklace.
 
There is a well researched forum on this case on FB. Recently I read the testimony from nurses who attended to DR's injuries. They all swore that if the situation had been different, the injury would have simply required butterfly bandages and she would have been sent straight home.

They also spoke of Darlie's lack of interest when one of the boy's bloody body was wheeled past her on a gurney. And, of her ongoing conversation about herself, but not questioning anything about her 2 dead sons.
 
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