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The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Fast Eddie B said:
Andrew McCabe just fired, 2 days before his retirement, costing him his pension.

Congress needs to grow a spine, step up and pass legislation ensuring his pension.

I’ll wait...

https://youtu.be/fqQD4dzVkwk
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I hear people saying things like this about the Congress from time to time and I don't quite agree. I don't think Republicans in Congress are bending the knee out of cowardice (for the most part). I think they really just don't have much of a problem with most of what Trump's doing. To them, Andrew McCabe is a useless thing with a Democrat politician for a wife. Why the hell should they care what happens to him?
 
Congress cannot pass a law that addresses an individual. They might be able to pass something more general like, 'if your birthday falls on a weekend, the earlier business day becomes the effective date of any pension you are eligible for because of age'.

Medicare becomes effective the first of the month you turn 65 in, and not on your birthday, for example.

Becoming retroactive to include McCabe could be an issue.

I would love to see such legislation passed. Maybe the GOP legislators won't stand up against Trump directly but they are making a big mistake not standing up against Trump's corruption and using his position to enact vindictiveness.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
This presumes he didn't deserve to be fired. I don't think we know that.
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Since Trump was calling for his firing long before there was any investigation, and since he had already put in for retirement, and since this is way out of line from the way federal personnel matters are usually handled, yeah, we kinda do.
 
BobTheCoward said:
This presumes he didn't deserve to be fired. I don't think we know that.
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Doesn't *********** matter. The punishment is not proportionate to the offense no matter how you look at it.

Of course if you watched Fox News tonight you might think McCabe should be charged with the same thing Flynn pled guilty to. :rolleyes:
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Congress cannot pass a law that addresses an individual.
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Actually, they can. It's called a private bill or law, often for circumstances where a particular law affects a particular person in a way that wasn't intended or contemplated, or where there is no law regarding a particular unusual situation. Not very likely that a Republican Congress would pass one for McCabe.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cong...lout-americans-special-cases/story?id=8995047
 
Bob001 said:
Actually, they can. It's called a private bill or law, often for circumstances where a particular law affects a particular person in a way that wasn't intended or contemplated, or where there is no law regarding a particular unusual situation.
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Apparently I had some false memories about the scope of the Bill of Attainder prohibitions.

Bob001 said:
Not very likely that a Republican Congress would pass one for McCabe.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cong...lout-americans-special-cases/story?id=8995047
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Whether they did or not, it could certainly be a political issue for them to let Trump treat people in such a corrupt way.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Andrew McCabe just fired, 2 days before his retirement, costing him his pension.

Congress needs to grow a spine, step up and pass legislation ensuring his pension.

I’ll wait...

https://youtu.be/fqQD4dzVkwk
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I don't know what to think of McCabe but this just demonstrates the extreme petty mindedness of Trump. I presume he made up his mind to do this long ago but timed it like this just to make McCabe suffer.
 
If Trump had any supporters left at the FBI, he just lost them. The President is obviously trying to scare the Bureau not to cross him, but that will backfire.
 
McCabe's full statement

I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.

For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.

No more.

The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.

The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.

But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.

Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.

This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.

I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.

I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-fired-statement-fbi-deputy-director/index.html

What a petty and disgusting administration :(
 
The Great Zaganza said:
If Trump had any supporters left at the FBI, he just lost them. The President is obviously trying to scare the Bureau not to cross him, but that will backfire.
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And Now McCabe will be more then anxious to tell whatever he knows.
DUmb,dumb,dumb move.
Not that McCabe will suffer much for it. Guaranteed, he will make more money on the lecture circuit and from his book then he ever would have with his pension.
Though I am betting a way will be found to get him his retirement benefits.
 
Trebuchet said:
Petty. He's a small, small man.
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As with his narcissism, his white supremacism, his misogyny, his corruption, and his general lack of intelligence and inability to forsee consequences, this was widely known about Cheeto Benito during the election.

The clown has basically cemented his place as among the worst presidents in US history a while ago, so the question is exactly how much do people like Paul Ryan want to tie their own legacies to his.
 
Pixel42 said:
In the UK someone treated this way would sue his former employer for unfair dismissal. Is there no US equivalent?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfair_dismissal_in_the_United_Kingdom
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There are Civil Service rules and procedures that apply generally to federal government employees, but as a senior official they don't necessarily apply to him, and the courts have apparently decided that the FBI is exempt from rules that might apply in other departments. He can probably sue -- in the U.S. you can sue anybody for anything -- but there seems to be a difference of opinion about whether he can ultimately prevail. It's more likely that a settlement would be reached to avoid lengthy, public legal proceedings that could be embarrassing to Trump.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/15/andrew-mccabe-fbi-legal-recourse-jeff-sessions-466603

Some commentators say that he is now free to write a tell-all book and go on a speaking tour, where a standard retirement agreement might have included some restrictions on what he could reveal.
 
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