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Elizabeth Warren refuses to take DNA test

Skeptic Ginger said:
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Democrats need to grow a spine and start telling some of these reporters what trivial crap they are paying attention to when there are so many critical issues in the country and in the world today.

BTW, I'm in this thread for the science issues. :D
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Agreed. Except I think that discussing the validity of DNA testing at all for something so pathetically trivial is a waste.

How many people lost their homes 8 years ago as a result of risky banking practices? How much money was spent on the bailouts? How many jobs were lost? How many people went to prison? And here we are talking about the ancestry of the one person who seems to give a damn and is fighting for the average person? Give me a damn break.
 
acbytesla said:
Agreed. Except I think that discussing the validity of DNA testing at all for something so pathetically trivial is a waste.

How many people lost their homes 8 years ago as a result of risky banking practices? How much money was spent on the bailouts? How many jobs were lost? How many people went to prison? And here we are talking about the ancestry of the one person who seems to give a damn and is fighting for the average person? Give me a damn break.
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This has nothing to do with anything else but Senator Warrens lying. And yes, it’s fun catching a no good liberal in these kinds of lies. It happens a lot, why, because libs like this so want to identify with ordinary people. She’s a fake, a phony, and a fraud.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
We are talking about an isolated population of humans, separated from European humans for tens of thousands of years. Characteristic SNPs would accumulate.
Again, we aren't talking genes but non-coding DNA, so we aren't looking at alleles of genes.
And of course it is a question of sufficient data to do the necessary statistical analysis, which in a proper scientific study could reveal both the presence of Native American DNA and the absence of DNA characteristic of pure European heritage.
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So now you are making up more stuff that makes sense to you rather than perhaps making an effort to learn more about the subject?

separated from European humans for tens of thousands of years
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Evidence? I do believe you are off on both ends of that timeline.

it is a question of sufficient data to do the necessary statistical analysis, which in a proper scientific study could reveal both the presence of Native American DNA and the absence of DNA characteristic of pure European heritage
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You failed to mention the time this would take and the amount of money that would be needed.

Another avenue of investigation I recommend you take is finding out just how much we differ and don't differ from each other.

Consider also what happens to a population when a bottleneck occurs. The vast majority of Native Americans were wiped out when Europeans began spreading across the continent. That alone would have a severe impact on genetic remnants in the population on the continent at some point.
 
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logger said:
This has nothing to do with anything else but Senator Warrens lying. And yes, it’s fun catching a no good liberal in these kinds of lies. It happens a lot, why, because libs like this so want to identify with ordinary people. She’s a fake, a phony, and a fraud.
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Nice to see you back logger, I guess you didn't bother bringing back proof that she actually lied, right? You do know what a lie is right? Or are you lying about knowing for a fact that she is lying?
 
The actual question is: why would ancestry matter in any case?
Warren is certainly not claiming that whatever Native American heritage she has entitles her for special privileges. Neither does she claim to have the right to speak for all Native Americans.
 
The Don said:
It's all down to equivalence, false or otherwise.

If the GOP can create the impression that Elizabeth Warren has been lying, or even mistaken about this, then any lie told by President Trump or his lackeys is just fine because the Democrats did it first. It's a win/win in any case. If she takes the test then she's been weak regardless of the results. If she doesn't, then she has something to hide :rolleyes:
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Nah, times don't add up. This one dates back to 2011/2012, when nobody was really thinking about Cheeto Benito and Scott Brown and the Massachusetts press was whining about it. It's really just the usual "my opponent is lying" stuff, amped up by the white supremacism/birtherism that is currently in fashion in the GOP.
 
theprestige said:
Let me know when an Ivy League school lists you as their only Bedrockian professor. And then it turns out that you have no *********** clue if you're really Bedrockian or not, but that doesn't stop you or the university from scoring some diversity points meanwhile.

And of course actual documented Bedrockians are still waiting for you to act on your supposed heritage.
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Got it: I can claim whatever heritage I like until I do or say anything that displeases you, and at that point you'll try to use it as a
weapon against me. With sledgehammer subtlety.

What was it Warren did to annoy you? Was it questioning the behavior of large banks? Or just being praised by your political enemies?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Got it: I can claim whatever heritage I like until I do or say anything that displeases you, and at that point you'll try to use it as a
weapon against me. With sledgehammer subtlety.

What was it Warren did to annoy you? Was it questioning the behavior of large banks? Or just being praised by your political enemies?
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Sure and we can have fun with another leftist claiming something they are not.
 
theprestige said:
It's a strategy she adopted for a few years during her academic career. Naturally she gave it up before moving from the ivory tower and into the public eye where people might actually question her self-identification.
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Of course you'll be providing proper supporting evidence for this claim....
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logger said:
Sure and we can have fun with another leftist claiming something they are not.
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Ah, then you have the information nobody else has that proves Warren does not have that bloodline and that she knew this all along and she took advantage of a lie to advance herself over others.

So let's see it, then. Money where your mouth is.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Ah, then you have the information nobody else has that proves Warren does not have that bloodline and that she knew this all along and she took advantage of a lie to advance herself over others.

So let's see it, then. Money where your mouth is.
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Why don’t you ask her? Tell her to put her money where her big mouth is? ;)
 
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Cleon said:
He just doesn't care.
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It's all about sticking it to the 'stupid libs'. Unethical conservatives will spout any lie, twist any truth, if only it makes 'stupid libs' look bad. They're upset, special, hurt conservative snowflakes throwing temper tantrums because Elizabeth Warren seems to have honestly thought she has native ancestry.
 
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