Proof of Immortality, VII

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Jabba said:
Dave,
- Sure, but leave me out of the equation. What is the likelihood that now would be between 1942 and 2042 Gregorian time?
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To quote a manager I once worked with when he was dealing with the network administrator who had come to work drunk again, "Put down the schnapps Schultz, you're snockered again."
 
Jabba said:
Sure. But the question still makes sense...
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No, "now" is relative and subjective by definition, and refers to an indeterminate interval of time. Under that definition please explain how your question makes sense. Don't just insist that it does; explain why each of your critics' objections is not operative or applicable.

Also, please explain the relevance of the question to your proof, to show you're not just distracting from yesterday's embarrassing gaffes. You've told us to ignore the event E for the time being. But doing so would fundamentally change the question. I can use statistics, for example, to deteermine the probability that my car will need a certain repair within a certain future interval of time. What you're asking is akin to "What is the probability of a repair?" It makes no sense. What repair? What car? You're just throwing statisticky-sounding gibberish against the wall in hopes that your critics will rise to the bait.
 
Jabba said:
Sure. But the question still makes sense...
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There are, in fact, only two possibilities. Either "now" means "the moment at which this statement is made," in which case the probability is 1; or "now" is not being used to mean the concept it is generally understood to mean, in which case the question does not make sense.

Dave
 
Dude, what are the odds that now is, like now, man? It could totally be some other time in some other dimension, and you and me are smoking a bowl and having this discussion there and then. Whoa.
 
Jabba said:
Sure. But the question still makes sense...
- Gotta go. I'll be back.
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Not really, but keep pretending, how is time defined exactly?

Your question ignore that doesn't it?

And just assumes some abstracted meaning to the word time.

In physics, there is only one time per reference point and that is 'now'.

Given any inertial frame of reference, it exists in the 'now'. So to ask, "What is the chance that now is between March1, 1950 and March 1 2100?" is meaningless.

The now can only be reference to one inertial frame as it exists.
 
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Jabba said:
Dave,
- Sure, but leave me out of the equation. What is the likelihood that now would be between 1942 and 2042 Gregorian time?
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Ahhh, he's using puddle logic.

“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.”

― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt
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I just ran
Code: 
SELECT GETDATE();
and got this:

Code: 
2018-02-15 09:57:36.127

So that settles it. "Now" is 2018-02-15 09:57:36.127.
 
Jabba said:
- Anybody's. The answer is unknowable from your perspective and my perspective (and probably, everybody else's) -- but whatever, it's extremely small!
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Now I know why your posts sound familiar!

http://wisdomofchopra.com

"Innocence differentiates into deep brains"

"Emotional intelligence explains mortal choices"

"The 'Now' of the moment is the 'Now' you will carry forever."

"The odds of 'you' being 'you' right 'now' are infinitesimal yet predestined. You are 'supposed' to be."

"Perception of infinite time is the path to cosmic life"
 
Jabba said:
- Anybody's. The answer is unknowable from your perspective and my perspective (and probably, everybody else's) -- but whatever, it's extremely small!
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Won't "now" be different depending on whose perspective you're talking about and when they are talking?
 
Jabba said:
- Anybody's. The answer is unknowable from your perspective and my perspective (and probably, everybody else's) -- but whatever, it's extremely small!
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That would be option (b): the question is meaningless, because you have chosen not to adhere to the accepted meaning of the word "now".

Dave
 
Jabba said:
The answer is unknowable from your perspective and my perspective (and probably, everybody else's) -- but whatever, it's extremely small!
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No, the answer is undefined, because your question is ill-formed. And no, you don't get to say that since it's undefined it must therefore be very small. You do this a lot. You pose gibberish conundrums, wave your hands, and declare that by virtue of the conundrum your desired outcome must be the result.

Geez, Jabba. If you wanted to demonstrate how ignorant you were of mathematics, you couldn't be doing a better job.
 
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