13 victims, ages 2 to 29, kept shackled by parents

ponderingturtle said:
That is what our society demands. I am sure they can end up in prison for something at some time, that is the prefered method of dealing with troubled adults after all.

Turning the children out onto the street is the standard for kids in CPS custody when they turn 18 after all. These are all basic standard procedures why should these people get treated any different because their case made the news?
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http://www.ruhealth.org/en-us/foundation/donate/Pages/PerrisSiblingSupportFund.aspx
 
luchog said:
A someone who was homeschooled, the short answer is "it depends".

There are programs in many states for testing homeschooled children, and some require that homeschoolers and their curricula be certified by the state. However, other states have no such requirement for testing or certification, and particularly with some of the more religious types, the homeschooled children are woefully unprepared for life in the real world.

And right now, our Cheeto-in-Chief-appointed secretary of education is trying to remove any and all testing and certification requirements for homeschooling and religious charter schools (which are nearly the same thing).

It really depends on why the parents are homeschooling. Some do so because they have special needs kids who don't do well in classroom environments. Some because they want to give their children a better education than what's available in their local public schools. Far more do so because they're religious nutcases who don't like the idea of children being taught evil liberal science and starting to question the validity of their religion. A small number of those do so because, along with keeping their children away from evil non-religious influences, it also keeps their children out of view of anyone mandated to report child abuse to the proper authorities.
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Cheers

Get the special needs. I would probably do the same (obviously depending on the needs)

I was also just assuming rural kids with no school within a totally annoying area to get to like here.

The rest is just a bit nutbar to me

But then each to their own and that
 
Craig4 said:
The Sheriff did not say that it was that particular kid who didn't know what a police officer was. He said some of the children.
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It was the District Attorney and he said many of the children did not know what a police officer is. We don't know how many is many. We also don't know if the 2 year old is included in that number.
 
William Parcher said:
It was the District Attorney and he said many of the children did not know what a police officer is. We don't know how many is many.
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But we do know that he didn't say "None of the children know what a police officer is." Nothing he says contradicts the claim, therefore, that a subset of them did know what a police officer is.

William Parcher said:
We also don't know if the 2 year old is included in that number.
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But, more importantly, we don't know if the eldest son is included in that number, and therefore have no reason to assume that he necessarily was.

Dave
 
The Turpin Children Imprisoned by Their Parents for Years Are Starting to Tell Their Story

Time said:
The California children who authorities say were tortured by their parents and so malnourished that their growth was stunted are slowly providing valuable information to investigators, a prosecutor told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

“Victims in these kinds of cases, they tell their story, but they tell it slowly. They tell it at their own pace,” Riverside County District Attorney Mike Hestrin said. “It will come out when it comes out.”...

Investigators have learned that the children were isolated from each other and locked in different rooms in small groups, Hestrin said.

The children did not have access to televisions or radios but were able to read and write and expressed themselves in hundreds of journals that were seized from the home, the district attorney said.

“It appears to me that they lacked any kind of understanding about how the world worked,” Hestrin said.

One of the older boys had taken a variety of classes at Mt. San Jacinto College, a community college, but his mother took him to the campus and waited outside class for him, Hestrin said...
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http://time.com/5117580/turpin-children-abuse-investigation
 
Eldest 'House of Horrors' sibling excelled at his community college in subjects such as algebra, guitar and public speaking and was twice named an honor roll student

DailyMail said:
The eldest son of the house of horrors siblings excelled at his community college and had been named to the honor roll for two semesters, school officials said Thursday.

Now in his 20s, he attended Mt. San Jacinto College for several years. His mother would bring him to school and wait outside his classes for him, prosecutors said.

He did not earn a degree but was on the president's honor roll in fall 2015 and spring 2016, said college spokeswoman Karin Marriott.

A transcript obtained by ABC News showed he attended classes from 2014 until at least 2016 and sometimes earned 15 credits per semester.

He earned As in many classes, including algebra, guitar, public speaking, English fundamentals and freshman composition.

Joe Chermak, who attended a musical performance at the school in May 2016, said he remembered seeing the Turpin family in the audience. The small group of family members took up almost half a row of seats and they were all wearing matching outfits - blue shirts and tan pants, he said.

At first, Chermak said he thought it was a group of kids from another school who came to watch the guitar ensemble with a mix of classical, jazz and musical theater, but then he looked more closely and realized they all seemed very skinny...
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5315527/Eldest-House-Horrors-sibling-excelled-college.html
 
I like how articles revealing that this or that child was seen at school or even did well academically are being treated like some kind of AHA THE OFFICIAL STORY UNRAVELS moments, while the classmates quoted in the same articles verifying that they were also starving, visibly unhealthy, and exhibiting non-existent hygiene are just kind of blipped over.
 
Checkmite said:
I like how articles revealing that this or that child was seen at school or even did well academically are being treated like some kind of AHA THE OFFICIAL STORY UNRAVELS moments, while the classmates quoted in the same articles verifying that they were also starving, visibly unhealthy, and exhibiting non-existent hygiene are just kind of blipped over.
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I don't know if that's what Parcher is doing, but I only meant I was wrong about the kid taking one class at a time. (It said he took 15 credits some semester or another.) I like to admit when I'm wrong, even though I gotta say, I don't understand why these details really matter either. We are still dealing with sick abusers, period. The only reason the case gets stranger is because with each new revelation, the disgusting parents' "motivations" become even more convoluted and inexplicable.

There are apparently conspiratards on Reddit insisting the story is "fake news" because "THEY" want to tarnish the reputation of Christianity and homeschooling. :rolleyes: I guess they didn't get the update that the Turpin family barely even had anything to do with Christianity.
 
isissxn said:
I don't know if that's what Parcher is doing, but I only meant I was wrong about the kid taking one class at a time. (It said he took 15 credits some semester or another.) I like to admit when I'm wrong,
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FWIW, I also was under the impression he only took one class at a time, so you were not alone in that. And I'm totally with you with the latter.

And for getting a proper impression of that number of 15 credits - how does that compare to the typical load of a full-time student? I looked at the wiki page but it didn't quite say that.
 
ddt said:
FWIW, I also was under the impression he only took one class at a time, so you were not alone in that. And I'm totally with you with the latter.

And for getting a proper impression of that number of 15 credits - how does that compare to the typical load of a full-time student? I looked at the wiki page but it didn't quite say that.
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12-15 hours is a typical full load.

So yea, the one kid isn't exactly Nell.
 
isissxn said:
There are apparently conspiratards on Reddit insisting the story is "fake news" because "THEY" want to tarnish the reputation of Christianity and homeschooling. :rolleyes: I guess they didn't get the update that the Turpin family barely even had anything to do with Christianity.
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I think this is mostly owing to a National Review article on the case - their only article on the whole case I believe - that is devoted exclusively to complaining that "libs" will be using it to attack godly 'Merrikin homeschooling. In fact, there have indeed been some mainstream news outlets who have quoted some officials expressing concern that hands-off, little-to-no oversight approaches by state and local governments to homeschooling make it easy for families like the Turpins to do what they do, and I think that is undeniably correct.
 
William Parcher said:
California should build a house or buy a house big enough for all of these kids and their two dogs. Then staff it with caregivers. Then invite family to come visit whenever they want.

Instead of placing them in existing foster homes create one for them. It's uncommon to have to snatch 13 kids all at once. So do a custom job for this batch.

Does it require a GoFundMe aimed at $5 million? There are reports that the neighbors are selling lemonade for the cause. Old fashioned lemonade!
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Just this one time, till the next time.

Imagine being a kid looking for foster care your entire life, probably going through some similar hardships and seeing that. " sorry joint but those kids hit on the news so now people care and they get a house. "

There is about a hundred other reasons is a bad idea but I don't have all day.
 
Checkmite said:
I like how articles revealing that this or that child was seen at school or even did well academically are being treated like some kind of AHA THE OFFICIAL STORY UNRAVELS moments, while the classmates quoted in the same articles verifying that they were also starving, visibly unhealthy, and exhibiting non-existent hygiene are just kind of blipped over.
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You're reading something into it that isn't there.
 
I tend to be anti-homeschooling principally because it is a way for right wingers to keep their kids from learning facts and therefore live a life of nonstop right wing propaganda.
 
 
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