The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Minoosh said:
From that story:


Unless I'm overlooking it, nowhere in the piece does it explain why First Solar's panels are exempt from tariffs. It makes panels in Malaysia, Vietnam and the U.S.
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Aren't the tariffs only on Chinese made panels?
 
Trump Launched Campaign to Discredit Potential FBI Witnesses
The president targeted three bureau officials who could provide key testimony in the Mueller probe.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/26/trump-launched-campaign-to-discredit-potential-fbi-witnesses/

Trump pressed senior aides last June to devise and carry out a campaign to discredit senior FBI officials after learning that those specific employees were likely to be witnesses against him as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation
 
Scott Walker Is Literally Preventing Wisconsinites From Voting

https://www.thenation.com/article/scott-walker-is-literally-preventing-wisconsinites-from-voting/

The Republican governor is refusing to call special elections to fill vacant legislative seats, as his allies attack nonpartisan oversight of elections.

Republican state senators denied the confirmations of the directors of Wisconsin’s ethics and elections commissions and Senate majority leader Scott Fitzgerald, a close ally of the governor, said he wanted to force out employees of the commissions who had participated in investigations of Republican wrongdoing.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Scott Walker Is Literally Preventing Wisconsinites From Voting

https://www.thenation.com/article/scott-walker-is-literally-preventing-wisconsinites-from-voting/

The Republican governor is refusing to call special elections to fill vacant legislative seats, as his allies attack nonpartisan oversight of elections.

Republican state senators denied the confirmations of the directors of Wisconsin’s ethics and elections commissions and Senate majority leader Scott Fitzgerald, a close ally of the governor, said he wanted to force out employees of the commissions who had participated in investigations of Republican wrongdoing.
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Learned it from McConnell apparently. :(
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Scott Walker Is Literally Preventing Wisconsinites From Voting

https://www.thenation.com/article/scott-walker-is-literally-preventing-wisconsinites-from-voting/

The Republican governor is refusing to call special elections to fill vacant legislative seats, as his allies attack nonpartisan oversight of elections.

Republican state senators denied the confirmations of the directors of Wisconsin’s ethics and elections commissions and Senate majority leader Scott Fitzgerald, a close ally of the governor, said he wanted to force out employees of the commissions who had participated in investigations of Republican wrongdoing.
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The GOP's pretense of commitment to representative government has always been a facade.

Walker's just tearing the facade down.
 
quadraginta said:
The GOP's pretense of commitment to representative government has always been a facade.

Walker's just tearing the facade down.
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Nah - Jesse Helms was practicing voter caging, literally decades ago. There's been Florida in 2000, Kobach and the other folks on Dolt 45's Voter Suppression All-Star Team, Justices Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas (yes I am putting his name right there) pushing to gut voting rights...There was never a facade at all.

The only aggravating part has been seeing black folks sound the alarm over and over, only to watch elected democrats sit around doing nothing about it. There's a reason why we joke that our oldest proverb is "We told y'all!"
 
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The Don said:
I suspect that the GOP will try to field candidates who are not alleged child molesters in those states.
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You may not be giving the GOP enough credit. Remember the GE of 2012? Bill Maher famously noted (I paraphrase) that you know your party's in trouble when someone asks if the "rape guy" lost and the response is "which one".

Moore wasn't an alleged child molester when he was nominated, either. (Well, alleged among people who knew him so let's change that to "Publically alleged...", maybe.)

With the Alt-Right and Trump and the Palins of the world out there searching out rising stars to fight it out in the GOP primaries, there are going to be a whole lot of lightly-vetted candidates running, again. Getting through a primary may not be so tough when your core voters just want the guy who hates ******* and other mud races as much as they do.
 
dudalb said:
I wonder if talking down Trump so he did not fire Mueller resembeled The Black Widow talking down the Hulk in the Avengers movies. Except the Hulk was a bit more even tempered and a lot more intelligent....
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Nah. All the evidence is that he can't stand up directly to anyone.
 
Mumbles said:
But immigrants from Canada or Europe? Never met one who was under 50.
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I know of one guy, the son of former Danish prime minister and former Secretary General of NATO, Anders Fogh Rasmussen:
Fogh's son is now an American
Henrik Fogh Rasmussen (German Wikipedia)

But he was also supposed to have been rewarded with a job in the Trump administration:
Fogh's son on his way to a job with Trump

I don't know if (but I do suspect) that had something to do with his father's shifting attitudes to Trump:
Anders Fogh Rasmussen: Trump is a global risk (Aug. 11, 2016)
Fogh: Trump has the potential to reestablish U.S. leadership in the world: "The elite was wrong about Donald Trump" (Jan. 17, 2017)

This despicable excuse for a human being was also the guy who sent Danish soldiers to Iraq with his lies about WMAs:
Today's lie: When the Fogh government wanted to go to war
The lie paid off when he was rewarded with the post as NATO Secretary General ...
 
quadraginta said:
The GOP's pretense of commitment to representative government has always been a facade.

Walker's just tearing the facade down.
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Yes, the Republicans are evil. Evil, I tells ya!

Don't get me wrong. Republicans have, especially in recent years, gerrymandered to a dreadful extent (Dems too, in certain areas, though I'm not sure if the offenses are equal). Some R's have also pushed nonsense conspiracies about voter fraud. McConnell purposely postponed the filling of an SCJ position for blatantly partisan reasons, barely pretending that this is based on precedence.

There's a lot that Republicans have to answer for recently. But there are also principled Republicans who have always supported representative government. Your demonization of the Republicans with hyperbolic claims really doesn't do a damned thing to encourage democratic principles.
 
phiwum said:
Yes, the Republicans are evil. Evil, I tells ya!

Don't get me wrong. Republicans have, especially in recent years, gerrymandered to a dreadful extent (Dems too, in certain areas, though I'm not sure if the offenses are equal). Some R's have also pushed nonsense conspiracies about voter fraud. McConnell purposely postponed the filling of an SCJ position for blatantly partisan reasons, barely pretending that this is based on precedence.

There's a lot that Republicans have to answer for recently. But there are also principled Republicans who have always supported representative government. Your demonization of the Republicans with hyperbolic claims really doesn't do a damned thing to encourage democratic principles.
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And the truth is that such people are a small minority in GOP leadership - there's Larry Hogan...um...

...wait, Hogan's really only a state leader. The actual de facto leader of the GOP, as you'll recall, collected all of the GOP's experts at voter suppression, running back almost 2 decades, and attempted to give them nationwide authority - at which point they began asking states for all of their voter data, and in at least Texas asked them to highlight voters with "Hispanic-sounding" names.

And then there's the Muslim ban, the ramping up of ICE, the fall back from equal housing, the endorsement of racial police violence, and on and on...

Basically, if the GOP doesn't want to be called the white supremacy party, they should stop acting like they are.
 
phiwum said:
Yes, the Republicans are evil. Evil, I tells ya!

Don't get me wrong. Republicans have, especially in recent years, gerrymandered to a dreadful extent (Dems too, in certain areas, though I'm not sure if the offenses are equal). Some R's have also pushed nonsense conspiracies about voter fraud. McConnell purposely postponed the filling of an SCJ position for blatantly partisan reasons, barely pretending that this is based on precedence.

There's a lot that Republicans have to answer for recently. But there are also principled Republicans who have always supported representative government. Your demonization of the Republicans with hyperbolic claims really doesn't do a damned thing to encourage democratic principles.
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But by that same token, some of them are evil, right? Not that evil means anything objectively, but pushing corporate interests instead of your constituency's, valuing hyperpartisanship over the welfare of the nation, and attempting to excuse your colleagues' moral crimes for the sake of political expediency are all pretty evil deeds for someone whose job is to do the opposite of all of those things.

So how close to that evil should you expect good Republicans to snuggle without getting any on them? How odious does a bill have to be before "just voting with my party" is no longer an excuse? How young do the children have to be for it to no longer be acceptable to show up on cable news making excuses and muddying waters?

How many of your good republicans fit those standards?

Personally, I'm down to two in the Senate, and I've given up on the House.
 
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