The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The fact that it's talking about "international" terrorism is certainly one aspect of the administration's claims that don't stand up to scrutiny. I'd say, though, that it's commonplace for governments to release data in ways that push their own agendas - from omitting key points, to keep commissioning reports until one says what they want it to say.

It seems to me, though, that it's worse to claim that the data is based on DHS analysis, when the DHS did not perform the analysis and does not collect or analyse the kind of data that is being claimed of them. From the article:



It's claimed to be a DHS analysis, done by DHS analysts, using DHS data, yet the DHS wasn't consulted at all. They had nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Forget lies of omission, that's straight-up lying.
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Hell, it's Jefferson The Traitor Elf Sessions. Does anyone expect anything else from him? How's that illusory crackdown on marijuana coming, Jeff?

Hey, maybe Donnie Johnny got the cracker-jack team who finished with their non-findings on the non-results of the non-existent massive number of illegal voters and they came up with the numbers for him? The best people.
 
Upchurch said:
Is it his complete lack of leadership skills, lack of relevant knowledge on the topic, or his inability to put together a coherent thought?
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How can you say that?

Trump had sex with women in the 70s. Avoiding STDs in that era was exactly like fighting a war in Vietnam!
 
Bob001 said:
Do you understand that she's a former Lt. Colonel who lost both her legs in combat in Iraq? That is a helluva qualification to discuss military affairs.
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Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.
 
theprestige said:
Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.
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And no one likes pilots who get shot down, they are as bad as ones who get captured.
 
theprestige said:
Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.
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What training in matters of Military affairs as he had? Where did he serve?
 
I don't think theprestige is saying that Duckworth is in any way unqualified, or that Trump is in any way qualified. He was criticising the premise of one, specific argument.
 
theprestige said:
Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.
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I wonder if congresspersons have access to that knowledge though. Maybe she should run.

oh wait.
 
theprestige said:
Getting injured in combat is not a qualification to discuss military affairs. Combat injuries do not impart knowledge of recruitment and retention, training and doctrine, procurement and supply, etc. They don't make anyone an expert, or even minimally competent, in matters of strategic priority, force strength and composition, or national security posture. By themselves, they don't even give much insight into the administration of veteran's affairs.

As for rank being a qualification? She might have been a Lieutenant Colonel, but Donald Trump is Commander in Chief.
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Well, if getting elected is a sufficient qualification, then that's all she has to do, isn't it.
 
NoahFence said:
I wonder if congresspersons have access to that knowledge though.
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I'm sure they do. Feel free to make an argument for her qualifications based on that knowledge. If you can show that she has that knowledge, whether from her access as a congressperson or from some other source, I won't even disagree with you.

The argument we're currently examining is that getting injured in combat supposedly provides special insight into military affairs in general.
 
theprestige said:
There's been a bit of news recently about naval officers who got promoted to high rank, who have now been made to resign, and face criminal charges, due to their actions as military officers. Promotion alone does not always signify qualification or fitness for duty.
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and you have any information that this applies to the Congresswoman in question?
Because otherwise your post is utterly irrelevant.
 
theprestige said:
I'm sure they do. Feel free to make an argument for her qualifications based on that knowledge. If you can show that she has that knowledge, whether from her access as a congressperson or from some other source, I won't even disagree with you.

The argument we're currently examining is that getting injured in combat supposedly provides special insight into military affairs in general.
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Don't be absurd. You know as well as I do that any argument I make, if shown to be correct, will only result in your moving the goalposts.
 
theprestige said:
I'm sure they do. Feel free to make an argument for her qualifications based on that knowledge. If you can show that she has that knowledge, whether from her access as a congressperson or from some other source, I won't even disagree with you.

The argument we're currently examining is that getting injured in combat supposedly provides special insight into military affairs in general.
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theprestige said:
If that's the qualification, then she and Trump are equally qualified. But her claim is that Trump is less qualified than her.
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Duckwork also has a B.A. in political science and an M.A. in international affairs from George Washington University, and she graduated from the Army Officers' Reserve Training Corp. So yes, she has infinitely more insight than a draft-dodging failed real estate tycoon and former game show host.
 
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